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Post by NS » Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:21 pm

JaddziaDax wrote:Bashar's idea is interesting O.o
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but nobody would take the initiative to do it, and then we'd get a bunch of bitching about having to OP and review the random DBZ and naruto vids whose vidid's were chosen. Really it's impossible to make everybody happy when ti comes to review because everybody has a problem with something.

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Post by BasharOfTheAges » Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:27 pm

JaddziaDax wrote:Bashar's idea is interesting O.o
You seem surprised. :lol:
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Post by JaddziaDax » Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:30 pm

I'm not really surprised...

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Post by godix » Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:24 pm

BasharOfTheAges wrote:As I've hinted at before, if the opinion of those running this is along the lines of "we're not targeting anyone" then why not simply choose the videos in a different manner. A random number generator that grabs several vidID values would work fine.

If you worry about not having all that much to talk about, run it so that you get something like 5 videos, and allot 20 minutes to talk about each one. Each reviewer could pick one or more to actually op. Scale it to your liking if this doesn't exactly fit.
The problem with this idea is a LOT of videos are not really gonna generate discussion. I mean honestly, after the third or fourth naturo linkin park video what can you really say except "Fuck this shit, I quit." At a certain point that actually was a real issue and I know of several who dropped review for exactly that reason.

There's also the fact when faced with a subtitled wrong AR macroblocked to hell video the entire discussion will be about technical issues. Personally I preferred when the review was about the video itself and not what filter chain they should have used.

The times I've had to pull a video out of my ass I looked for stuff that didn't have huge glaring tech issues and was decent enough people would at least be somewhat interested (except once, which I did for the drama lulz and freely admitted that at the time. And it didn't seem to cause drama anyway). Which I suppose can come off as picking on popular editors but really it's just having enough standards that people will stick around to discuss the video instead of finding something else to do.

Anyway, point being there are videos that many people would run off to play TF2 or something rather than waste time talking about how horrible the video was. A random generator will pick those types of videos a lot since there's a lot of that type of video on the org. Take a look at the most underrated vids sometime, the reason they're underrated is that there's nothing anyone can really think of to say about them.
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Post by BasharOfTheAges » Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:49 pm

I can appreciate that most of what a random pull would produce is crap, but on the bright side, it might have some advantages.

1) Reducing the stupidly high average op score (in a valid and productive way).
2) Giving some contrast to the "good" videos that you usually review will provide a bit of grounding to the more cynical reviewers.
3) You could always increase the pull to something like 10 or so videos before hand and be able to present at least a couple of choices come review time.

As for the discussion going technical - that's something that always seems to happen. Either have people there trying to turn the conversation away from it, or realize that the only incidences where you spend all the time talking tech are when the problems are marginal, so when the problems are obvious, it won't cause argument (the thing that lengthens the conversations), just a few lines of insults and then silence until the next video goes up.
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Post by godix » Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:03 pm

BasharOfTheAges wrote:As for the discussion going technical - that's something that always seems to happen. Either have people there trying to turn the conversation away from it
<a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/v ... 5805">That might be a good idea.</a>
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Post by BasharOfTheAges » Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:37 pm

godix wrote:
BasharOfTheAges wrote:As for the discussion going technical - that's something that always seems to happen. Either have people there trying to turn the conversation away from it
<a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/v ... 5805">That might be a good idea.</a>
Actively... in the chan... as much as it takes for it to work if you're that passionate about it. My point is that it isn't a complaint against my idea.
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