um.... the fact that AMVORG is down and does not exist does not mean you were banned, it means that your DNS server is having issues... or your routing is wierd. If you were banned you would be able to resolve the host name, but when connecting the web server would tell you that you do not have authorization or some other message like that
sounds like somethign on your end is the problem... maybe your network admin cut you off?
and if you are as good with a unix box as you claim... then you should know that...
Phade does not ban people on a whim... and very rarely even when justified. I think there was a problem on your end... or even that there was not a problem and you are trying to get attention.
i was banned for an unjust cause
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Phade
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Hey akirahhz,
I don't know who you are but nobody gets banned for using someone else's video footage. That's just dumb.
The only person I banned by IP was someone who use some sorta "download accelerator" to download my Material Girl video off the server several hundred times at the same time. This made the site bandwidth useage skyrocket, needless to say. I figured that if this person is dumb enough to use a "download accelerator" like this with my video, other people are going to have a similar bandwidth useage problem with thier videos when this person finds them. So, the best thing to do to save them was to ban the IP address so that they could not find videos using this site.
Now if this person was you, you very much deserved to be banned. It's hard enough to find decent hosting as it is, but if someone wastes valuable bandwidth like that, they don't deserve to be downloading videos. (This over-useage of bandwidth is one of the technical details I'm trying to overcome with the Donut. If anyone knows of a way to detect the use of "download accelerators", please contact me.)
But as for the notion that someone would be banned for using other people's video footage, that is just silly. Heck, I know of a few Ranma videos that use my Material Girl video footage in them (I know because of the lip syncing adjustments I made to the footage to get it to sorta match the music better).
Phade.
I don't know who you are but nobody gets banned for using someone else's video footage. That's just dumb.
The only person I banned by IP was someone who use some sorta "download accelerator" to download my Material Girl video off the server several hundred times at the same time. This made the site bandwidth useage skyrocket, needless to say. I figured that if this person is dumb enough to use a "download accelerator" like this with my video, other people are going to have a similar bandwidth useage problem with thier videos when this person finds them. So, the best thing to do to save them was to ban the IP address so that they could not find videos using this site.
Now if this person was you, you very much deserved to be banned. It's hard enough to find decent hosting as it is, but if someone wastes valuable bandwidth like that, they don't deserve to be downloading videos. (This over-useage of bandwidth is one of the technical details I'm trying to overcome with the Donut. If anyone knows of a way to detect the use of "download accelerators", please contact me.)
But as for the notion that someone would be banned for using other people's video footage, that is just silly. Heck, I know of a few Ranma videos that use my Material Girl video footage in them (I know because of the lip syncing adjustments I made to the footage to get it to sorta match the music better).
Phade.
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Nappy
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Re: i was banned for an unjust cause
You obviously didn't rework it to well if someone can Identify it.akirahhz wrote: i used a compleatly different song and even re-sequenced the footage
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Re: i was banned for an unjust cause
hear hearNappy wrote:You obviously didn't rework it to well if someone can Identify it.akirahhz wrote: i used a compleatly different song and even re-sequenced the footage
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priuscomet
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lol! that's funny, the kid was dumb enough to get caught. bah! there's so many vids using footage from other amv's why the hell are you the only one banned? o_0 you sure they weren't shiting you whoever told you that you were banned?
anyway...::scratches head:: me looks at it like this. using another amv as source footage is like using anime as source footage. wait a minute! O_O we all do that! whoa...quite frankly, i'd like to see more amv's where editors use their own made footage instead of footage derived from anime. or more vids using their own music. but that's not gonna happen anytime soon will it? cuz ppl are lazy or they don't know how and i'm one of them like the every one of you. o_0 so tell me why its wrong to use someone else's amv as a source footage (as long as you don't copy the clip sync and effects that is)...
you know, i think i've seen one of your vids. can't remember which one tho.
anyway...::scratches head:: me looks at it like this. using another amv as source footage is like using anime as source footage. wait a minute! O_O we all do that! whoa...quite frankly, i'd like to see more amv's where editors use their own made footage instead of footage derived from anime. or more vids using their own music. but that's not gonna happen anytime soon will it? cuz ppl are lazy or they don't know how and i'm one of them like the every one of you. o_0 so tell me why its wrong to use someone else's amv as a source footage (as long as you don't copy the clip sync and effects that is)...
you know, i think i've seen one of your vids. can't remember which one tho.
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Hakura
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Hey Phade, speaking of Bandwidth issuses, I just got my site back up today, we have 400 gigs a month to use, but I don't want people abusing it...if you di find a way to stop bandwidth usages or can help detect when that could happen, it would be a great help ^^
I'm new to the deticated server thing ^^ also with dl accelators I'd like to know about that too ^^
I'm new to the deticated server thing ^^ also with dl accelators I'd like to know about that too ^^
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Phade
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Hey,
From what I know of these "download accelerators", many try to circumvent per-connection bandwidth caps placed on downloads by the hosting server. Server bandwidth caps placed by the server owner try to more evenly distribute the available bandwidth to users by limiting the amount of bandwidth used by an individual download. The accelerator opens multiple connections to the download server and uses the combined connections to download different parts of the file simultaneously.
For example, if an accelerator is set to spawn 4 downloads at once; the first download will try to download the first 25%, the second download connection the second 25% and so on. When each download connection finishes downloading their parts, the accelerator combines the parts into one complete file. Assuming all connections were successful, the download took 1/4 the time it normally would because it had allocated to itself 4x the connections to get the file.
This is all fine and dandy (if you don't count being a dick by bumping off 3 other user's connections to get the file 4x faster). But if the accelerator user screws up the settings, the accelerator may try to reconnect or redownload segments of the file unnecessarily. The end result here is that it costs much more time and resources to get the user the file than if they just downloaded it normally. I believe this was the case with this person trying to download my video several hundred times in a row (that, or they were intentionally being a dick).
There is a different type of product called a "download resumer" which is rather useful, especially to dial-up users. The resumer allows downloads to be paused and resumed later if the connection is broken (like you have to use the phone in the middle of a 3 hour download). The resumer picks up where the download left off once the connection is restored.
Something that can go wrong with resumers is the time interval between resumes. If the "check for resume" is set to once a minute or so, things are nice for the server. But if the "check for resume" is set for 60 times each second, this hammering of the server kills the server performance for everyone else using the server.
Now the trick is to detect when someone is doing a normal download vs. trying to skrew everyone else by trying to hog bandwidth or hammer the server. Figuring this out is one of the things on the Golden Donut list of stuff to do before rolling it out.
Phade.
From what I know of these "download accelerators", many try to circumvent per-connection bandwidth caps placed on downloads by the hosting server. Server bandwidth caps placed by the server owner try to more evenly distribute the available bandwidth to users by limiting the amount of bandwidth used by an individual download. The accelerator opens multiple connections to the download server and uses the combined connections to download different parts of the file simultaneously.
For example, if an accelerator is set to spawn 4 downloads at once; the first download will try to download the first 25%, the second download connection the second 25% and so on. When each download connection finishes downloading their parts, the accelerator combines the parts into one complete file. Assuming all connections were successful, the download took 1/4 the time it normally would because it had allocated to itself 4x the connections to get the file.
This is all fine and dandy (if you don't count being a dick by bumping off 3 other user's connections to get the file 4x faster). But if the accelerator user screws up the settings, the accelerator may try to reconnect or redownload segments of the file unnecessarily. The end result here is that it costs much more time and resources to get the user the file than if they just downloaded it normally. I believe this was the case with this person trying to download my video several hundred times in a row (that, or they were intentionally being a dick).
There is a different type of product called a "download resumer" which is rather useful, especially to dial-up users. The resumer allows downloads to be paused and resumed later if the connection is broken (like you have to use the phone in the middle of a 3 hour download). The resumer picks up where the download left off once the connection is restored.
Something that can go wrong with resumers is the time interval between resumes. If the "check for resume" is set to once a minute or so, things are nice for the server. But if the "check for resume" is set for 60 times each second, this hammering of the server kills the server performance for everyone else using the server.
Now the trick is to detect when someone is doing a normal download vs. trying to skrew everyone else by trying to hog bandwidth or hammer the server. Figuring this out is one of the things on the Golden Donut list of stuff to do before rolling it out.
Phade.
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