(Old) School (Days) Ad Nauseam

whiic · Post by **whiic** » Mon May 05, 2008 5:55 pm

Gentlemen, behold...
No. It's not corn. It's not even Bourbon. It's a...
Well, you'll see what it is if you dare to watch.
Some of you might already guess what it is.

...WTF is this ¤"#%?
It's something I've been creating lately. Not that many days of editing but the editing days were pretty non-stop, me being high on caffeine and listening to Dutch gabber for too long. The concept kept evolving continuously as I kept editing, so did the length of the vid which I originally intended to make shorter than the main song, "Ad Nauseum" (sic), but which I ended up remixing to make it "Ad Nauseum (whiic extended ad absurdum remix)".

Please notice the no smoking sign and remain seated until your favourite media player has come to a full stop. Thank you. I hope you enjoyed the general fuxxoruppedness of this vid.

Bauzi · Post by **Bauzi** » Tue May 06, 2008 3:01 pm

*phew*
Now the music is what I call "special interessted". Could be easly a song of our Improv Project. Uhm yeah what can I say about the vid? I think the song choices were some kind of original and the editing unusal for this kind of main song, I think. Mhm... Yeah I couldn´t watch the whole amv because of the songs used. I skipped into it from time to time.

It´s not bad in my eyes, but doesn´t really get my interest. Something like a onw-watch video.

3/5
I just wanted to give some feedback to this unusal vid. That´s it, I guess.

Niwa · Post by **Niwa** » Tue May 06, 2008 3:07 pm

School Days huh =O

/gets

Yok/0 · Post by **Yok/0** » Tue May 06, 2008 4:22 pm

Phantasmagoriat · Post by **Phantasmagoriat** » Tue May 06, 2008 5:08 pm

It was like a story, with music... which I didn't mind since I've never seen the series.

Some of the moments had the mood spot on with the music, but for the majority of the video the editing could have been upped drastically; however for a 10 min AMV... I can understand why you wouldn't. Basically I'll just rehash my comments from your other video. I don't regret watching it since I've never seen the series, and it kinda had a storyline to it to keep interest.

whiic · Post by **whiic** » Wed May 07, 2008 5:41 pm

Nice to see some replies as I can't get quick comments for indirect downloads.

Bauzi: "I think the song choices were some kind of original and the editing unusal for this kind of main song, I think."

I'm not sure whether it's good or not. I kept the story on a higher priority than flashing frames. Just flashing the video to white or black frame every single beat for 10 minutes would be epileptic and would not make it more special. I limited the flashing for the scenes that consisted of .JPGs taked from School Days visual novel. While the game is fully animated, I didn't use moving footage since there's no translation patch for it yet (that means I couldn't "navigate" to the scenes I wanted to capture). Sekai Project is working on game translation. It's taking quite a bit longer than just translating anime... glitches with stability and such, makes sense.

Bauzi: "Mhm... Yeah I couldn´t watch the whole amv because of the songs used."

So, you ain't a gabber. Well, that's no surprize. There's not that many gabbers around... anywhere. Except when Thunderdome is on...
The main song I used was from the first Thunderdome compilation from year 1992/1993... old school gabba. The same age I like my whisky.

Yoko+, indeed it is.

Phantasmagoriat: "Some of the moments had the mood spot on with the music, but for the majority of the video the editing could have been upped drastically"

Upped as made more upbeat? Prolly. But I didn't want to remove any action from it, no matter how slowly it was occurring. Speeding it up could have been possible but it might have looked ridiculous. I did speed up the folkdance part quite a bit (200...400%)... kinda trying to make it a joke (in Finland, "rave" music is called piripolkka, loosely translated to "folkdance on crack"... or more literally "polka on amphetamine").

Some People say (not on this thread) it doesn't really match the beat. I agree it never matches the baseline. It's far too fast to match anything to... unless causing epilepsy is the primary goal. Scene/view changes are timed to occur on higher tones, sometimes skipping a beat or two for tension. Somethimes the only thing occuring to the beat is just twitching eyebrows (the video does focus on Kotonohas slowly developing insanity)... but in some parts the mood of the music is matching the wrath of Sekai or just hands clapping during folkdance. While Ad Nauseum is a repetitive song, fortunately it also varies slightly all the time.

Long post is loooooong. Resembles my amv in that respect...

Bauzi · Post by **Bauzi** » Thu May 08, 2008 1:40 am

Bauzi: "I think the song choices were some kind of original and the editing unusal for this kind of main song, I think."

I'm not sure whether it's good or not. I kept the story on a higher priority than flashing frames. Just flashing the video to white or black frame every single beat for 10 minutes would be epileptic and would not make it more special. I limited the flashing for the scenes that consisted of .JPGs taked from School Days visual novel. While the game is fully animated, I didn't use moving footage since there's no translation patch for it yet (that means I couldn't "navigate" to the scenes I wanted to capture). Sekai Project is working on game translation. It's taking quite a bit longer than just translating anime... glitches with stability and such, makes sense.

Actually I didn´t wanted a flashgasm vid. The plain flash stuff is more a popular editing nowadays so your editing was kinda unusal to what tons of other amv creators would do. I don´t know if it was good or not. What I can say is that flashing would be a really bad idea. In fact I have no idea wich editing could suite this kind of songs.
In the end there is hardly any editing that makes the vid smexy and more interresting in kind of flow etc. The things that are left are the music and the story in the anime. Well... I´m not really a fan of them.
Let´s discribe this vid as: "for special interrests" and that´s not really a bad thing.

Bauzi: "Mhm... Yeah I couldn´t watch the whole amv because of the songs used."

hell for nothing in the world would I be a gabber. Anyway I´m surprised that this word is international known. I thought that it´s just a word that was converted into out austrian slang ^^'

There's not that many gabbers around... anywhere.

Ah. I guess we two think something different. In Austria gabbers are the show off kind of kiddies that like to rave around and some more minor stuff. Yeah yeah an abuse again of a word to discribe a temporary fashion. Sad sad

AphexTwin · Post by **AphexTwin** » Thu May 08, 2008 2:27 am

Interesting clip. Not the rewatchable kind but I still enjoyed the concept. A nice summary for a crappy series.

Phantasmagoriat · Post by **Phantasmagoriat** » Thu May 08, 2008 4:10 pm

Phantasmagoriat: "Some of the moments had the mood spot on with the music, but for the majority of the video the editing could have been upped drastically"

Well, I guess what I mean is you need to make that connection with the music a little better... or maybe just more obvious. There are only two ways I can think of doing it, and that would be sync to more things [in this case I wouldn't go too nuts... unless you can pull it off to be less intrusive] or you could make the sync stand out more somehow. There was probably far more internal sync than I noticed, and you said a lot of it was with the higher frequency sounds; well unless you accent the notes somehow to signify which part of the music you are syncing to... I'm not going to notice it right away; or it would loose me entirely. Perhaps when you switch the sync style, do some external sync; a color change, blur, minor effect, or something just to make me notice "look, I'm switching to baseline... and now I'm switching to the fx in the background."

What I probably would have done is made the video just the way you did. But afterwards, go back and listened to all the components of the music [there's a lot of stuff going on] and pick out parts that aren't too fast. Then find a way to incorporate it into what you already have. Like at 5:47, when she's on the bridge, I feel you could do a slight contrast flicker with the falling snow to go along with the audio fx. Little things like this throughout the video could go a long way.

Anyway, I'm not saying it was bad, just it has more potential. ...and it's loooong.

whiic · Post by **whiic** » Thu May 08, 2008 4:35 pm

Bauzi: "In fact I have no idea wich editing could suite this kind of songs."

Neither did I have an idea so I decided to leave the attempt of upbeating it, undone.

Bauzi: "Let´s discribe this vid as: "for special interrests" and that´s not really a bad thing."

Same applies to the series and probably to the game as well. It's not watched or played for the regular reasons. It's the expectations that make the series worthwhile. Also the uniqueness of the idea on how to rape the idea of harem anime up the arse (with or without a corn cob)... that's brilliant. But only for those with ... "special interrests". I guess I'm just a f*cktard.

I'm not a big fan of old school gabba myself. I'm more into modern speedcore, terrorcore, noisecore, power electronics, techno (not the eurodance "techno" like Dr Alban), dark ambient (and ambient in general), drone, psy-trance (and goa trance in special)... stuff like that. And J-pop, eurobeat, heavy/death metal, industrial, industrial metal, industrial rock, etc. Despite all this diversity I'm not specially drawn to old school gabba (but Ad Nauseum was quite a decent song on the album that mostly consisted of utter rubbish).

AphexTwin: "A nice summary for a crappy series."

I've seen many more crappy series, some of which are rated above average by others. School Days is above average in enjoyment for me, while being rated below average by others. Not all of that is thanks to the series itself but more to the pre-expectations of a bloodbath which made watching it even more worthwhile. ...That, and the fact that it totally rapes the harem anime concept which I had grown to hate even prior to seeing SD.