Why is it that I have to be rich to watch anime?

FirestormXIII · Post by **FirestormXIII** » Fri Nov 08, 2002 10:36 pm

I'm just left wondering why this topic went past one page...

RichLather · Post by **RichLather** » Fri Nov 08, 2002 10:55 pm

Make it stop!

Kill it! Kill it in the head!

The HentaiMaster · Post by **The HentaiMaster** » Fri Nov 08, 2002 11:03 pm

Garylisk wrote:OK...

Listen you two bit cheap bastard, and listen well. You know those people translating and subtitling a show out of their own pocket? Yeah.. THAT'S ME, YA PUNK! Do you know how big a pain in the ass it is to translate, time, typeset, encode, review, correct, recode, and finally post these damn fansubs? I wish someone were paying me for all the bullshit I have to go through just so you can watch a show for free! Someday I WILL be paid for it when I become a professional translator! All those jobs have people in a fansub group, just like all those jobs have people in a professional company.. excepyt in a professional company, there's even MORE people. Actors, executives, machinists, marketing, PR, and much more. Do you think all of those people can make a living do this stuff for you FOR FREE? Do you think that they can possibly have any sort of life other than doing this for you? I don't think so. THey need money. They need money to live. They need money to publish. THey need money to get more liscences.

What you think is FREE broadcasting in Japan is actually paid for by advertisments. You know, COMMERCIALS? THat's where companies ask you to buy their products/services. Yay, you remembered. Good for you, here's a cookie.

why do ppl argue about all that ppl that make teh fansubs well they wanna do it they do it cose it's fun.If it was me the fan iff i like translating it well i will not mind alsow, if it so hard they why do u doo it.
Iff u think that ppl are abusing of u then just spot making fansubs. but iff u make em and u still complain well that is ur problem.I ff ya wanna get paid for it well do sommethin, but do no acuse us

MAS PRODUCTIONS · Post by **MAS PRODUCTIONS** » Sat Nov 09, 2002 1:43 am

I personnaly dont mind paying money for dvds and such of anime. Just to give you an idea of the money I've spent.

Evangelion series DVDs 1-8
total: $270

The Wanderers series DVDs 1-4
total: $120

El Hazard OAV box set DVD
total: $100

El Hazard The Alternative World DVDs 1-4
total: $120

Love Hina DVDs 1-5
total: $150

Hand Maid May DVDs 1-3
total: $90

Ah My Goddess seres + movie
total: $90

Misc. DVDs
total: $150

GRAND TOTAL OF DVDS: $1090

Why have I spent this much on DVDs because I love anime and even if it were free on tv I would still spend money on tapes so that I can watch my favorite shows when I randomly want to at 3:46 am. lol

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Sat Nov 09, 2002 1:57 am

And lets not forget the worste part of this, if there is a subpar series that you want to see, but don't want to pay for,guess what, still need to pay for it if you don't want to break the law. And why is it that everyone is talking aobut movies OVA's and 30 ep series, lets step back a bit and take a bigger look at what paying for aniem means. How many of you own all of Kenshin? the eps, the OVA's? who here owns them?

MAS PRODUCTIONS · Post by **MAS PRODUCTIONS** » Sat Nov 09, 2002 2:17 am

Pdperfection , a member of MAS Productions, does own all of Kenshin.

Garylisk · Post by **Garylisk** » Sat Nov 09, 2002 3:02 am

I do it to learn Japanese and to help people see the show before its north american release.

I am sorry I can't reply to you very well because I could not understand a whole lot of what you typed. You understanding of the English language is, I believe, slightly less than the average 9 year old child. And your typing skills seem to be flawed as well. In any case, proofread your work, becuase words like "alsow" "doo" "ppl" "cose" "iff" "etc... are not words. And for crying out loud, if you want tog et your point, as shallow as it is, accorss... Make a little more sense, please. Structure your sentences so that I can understand them.

Now that that is out of the way, I would also like to point out that I buy anime also for the satisfaction of having the pretty shelves of DVD's.

Now as far as some other things addressed in this thread, I think the biggest problem here is that appearently my point earlier was not made clearly enough... Anime isn't expensive at all. Who missed that? Oh, I think it was everyone.

Listen Cataclysm or however you spell it and whatever fucking lame-ass net-newb alternating caps you use in it... How old are you? Are you even old enough to obtain a job? Because quite frankly, if I am lecturing a kid on ethics, I intend to stop. Kids don't understand ethics and economics anyway. Wait until you grow up, then you might understand.

Was that a horrible generalization I just made? Why yes it is, but I think it's fairly true.

One that is appearently not true is "All anime fans love their anime enough to support it." I used to stand by that phrase back in the old days when people would peddle fansubs at anime clubs and people would actually stop selling the subs and stop making copies and just palin stop using the fansub tapes when the show came out stateside. We had honor back then. We were supporting something cool. Now it's widespread, there's way more fans, and not all of them have the inner circle of buddies kind of code of honor.

Yeah, and then of course, you didnt' want to play your fansub tapes too often anyway... they would get ruined. Yeah. You know why you progressively each year see less and less fansubs of those old shows you used to love floating around? That's because everyone who had fansub tapes either stopped playing them becuase they wanted to preserve them, or kept watching them until the tape gave up.

Those were the days... Am I alone in remembering those days?

Nappy · Post by **Nappy** » Sat Nov 09, 2002 3:31 am

CaTaClYsM wrote:And lets not forget the worste part of this, if there is a subpar series that you want to see, but don't want to pay for,guess what, still need to pay for it if you don't want to break the law. And why is it that everyone is talking aobut movies OVA's and 30 ep series, lets step back a bit and take a bigger look at what paying for aniem means. How many of you own all of Kenshin? the eps, the OVA's? who here owns them?

First of all there is this thing called renting videos, if you can't find a decent anime place near you try netflix or something then, and if you buy one you don't like you can always sell it on ebay or whatever and get most of your money back.

MAS your paying full retail price @_@ try www.dvdpricesearch.com or at least best buy.

P.S. I own all the kenshins o:)

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Sat Nov 09, 2002 4:06 am

Garyslik wrote:And your typing skills seem to be flawed as well. In any case, proofread your work, becuase

and I'll stop there, since your typing skills arent exactly what I woudl call par either.

actualy no I wont

Garyslik wrote:becuase words like "alsow" "doo" "ppl" "cose" "iff" "etc... are not words

how about that, words you claim I wrote that I never did...

Now let me give YOU a little lesson in economics, in the US a show is aired, people watch it, and all people need to do is watch it. It gets its' support from the advertizements it has, and how much revenue it brings in is defined by its' popularity. The same is true in japan, but since the anime market in the US is small, noone can air anime since there isn't enough of a fan-base to get the ratings to get the money bla bla bla bla bla.....

I could care less about the economics there is an anime channel comming out that I plan to support, and guess what, I don't have to pay 100 bucks to watch the series I want to see. And gary, I woudl also like to thank you for COMPLETELY MISSING THE POINT! This is about how if I watch an anime that I havent bought on DVD or watched on TV it is illegal, and what if the anime has not been lisenced yet? that is illegal too, I have to wait for someone to decide that they are going to use it to turn a profit before I can see it. And most importantly HOW SINCE I AM NOT SLEEPING ON A PILE OF MONEY I CAN'T WATCH ANIME. all you cock jockes that are sleeping on piles of gold and going to little lord fontleroy school for albino hemopheliacs can buy your anime and watch it without giving it a second though, I am happy for you. BUT DON'T GET ON MY FUCKING CASE BECAUSE I AM NOT AS RICH AS YOU, I WOULD BE BUYING THIS STUFF IF I HAD THE MONEY! But what I have been griping about is how I can't, and since it is ILLEGAL to use any other means I can't.

And btw, while were putting words in other peoples mouths'

Garyslik wrote:I'm a fucking moron who is going to get angry as people who have less money than I do!

oh wait let me check my pocket for that 20 I had lying around , oh wait my bad, I don't have 20 dollars, lol silly me.

Garylisk · Post by **Garylisk** » Sat Nov 09, 2002 4:20 am

I apologise for my previous statement about your use of language and such. It was not at all correct seeing as someone else posted that and not you. My sincere apologies go out to you.

BTW I am broke, hav eno job, leech off my friends until I can get one, have a horrible work history, am over 3,000 in debt, don't have a legal driver's liscense, don't have legal plates, don't have a legal home address (I am technically homeless at the moment.), and most definitely can't afford anime at the moment.

Also, I'd like to point out that I am glad you finally said that you would be buying it if you could. I like that. Personally, I download anime as well.. However, generally it's new shows that are not out in the USA yet.

I can't wait til someone hires me.. that way I can have massive fucking anime OWNAGE. Until then, though... I just have to look for a job and pray that they will hire me despite my shitty work history. (Been fired from every job I've held except for 3... and those jobs I usually quit without much of a good reason. God I'm irresponsible.)

Anyway, a peek into my personal life and financial situation. Hope you enjoyed it.