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Post by Kionon » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:37 am

SyberiaWinx wrote:Here's what he came up with:

Aspect Ratio: 4:3
Resolution= 320x240
Codec= 0x0055 MPEG-1 Layer 3
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Uhm. Wait. What?

320x240 is only really acceptable for portable video players these days, and this is your source? Your source should be more like 640x480 or 720x480 if it's 4:3 (and the latter needs to be corrected to the former).

MP3 is the audio codec for the source. Not the video codec.
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Post by SyberiaWinx » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:46 am

He just told me. Video is: XVID MPG4. I THINK he resized them to that. The quality as it is could be better, so I don't even want to think about what they looked like at that size. A former friend of mind ripped the same scenes in much better quality, but it might be because of different recorders.
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Post by Kionon » Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:50 am

Anyway, the videos were recorded with Intervideo Windvd Creator 3. They were originally recorded in the MPEG2 format as that was my only option. I then converted them to WMV files. That is what we have right now...
SyberiaWinx wrote:He just told me. Video is: XVID MPG4. I THINK he resized them to that. The quality as it is could be better, so I don't even want to think about what they looked like at that size. A former friend of mind ripped the same scenes in much better quality, but it might be because of different recorders.
Okay let me get this straight:

He had perfectly good MPEG2 files which the normal pre-processing steps could have been applied to, and then he converted them into XVID video, MP3 audio, in a WMV container at a resolution of 320x240?
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Post by SyberiaWinx » Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:54 am

I never saw the original files, but I would assume the quality was worse due to the larger size. He shrunk them to make them look better and lessen the rather big filesize, which is also why he chose wmv. Mpeg2 does not work in my video editor and is HUGE in terms of size. He's new to all this and is going through a lot of trouble to get the scenes.
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Post by Kionon » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:00 am

SyberiaWinx wrote:I never saw the original files, but I would assume the quality was worse due to the larger size. He shrunk them to make them look better and lessen the rather big filesize, which is also why he chose wmv. Mpeg2 does not work in my video editor and is HUGE in terms of size. He's new to all this and is going through a lot of trouble to get the scenes.
I presume this means that he did not set a high enough bitrate on the initial capture. Does he still have the source? Can he capture it again? What is the source in question, for that matter?

Most of us want to watch AMVs at full screen, so downscaling really doesn't help much.

Also, if XVID is the codec, then it shrunk the filesize, not the fact it was placed inside the WMV container.

What is your editor? Established pre-processing steps should be enough to make any initial MPEG2 source into lossless editable files.
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Post by SyberiaWinx » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:07 am

*runs in circles*

All this bitrate stuff would be lost on both of us.

The source is a video game. He recorded the scenes onto his PC using some kind of device.

My editor is WMM.>_>; Don't give me that look.;-;
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Post by Kionon » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:10 am

SyberiaWinx wrote:*runs in circles*

All this bitrate stuff would be lost on both of us.

The source is a video game. He recorded the scenes onto his PC using some kind of device.
Didn't answer my question though. Can we start over? I'll still help you add the letterboxing, but I want you to start off with the best footage quality you can (and in fact, there may be a way to rip the scenes directly from the video game if it's a disc). There should be a way to set the resolution, codec, container, and bitrate for his capture device.
My editor is WMM.>_>; Don't give me that look.;-;
Too late. And WMM should be able to handle lossless .avi, I think.
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Post by SyberiaWinx » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:15 am

I tried ripping the scenes from the disk, but only got a few. He could probably do it again technically, but that's asking a lot of him. He had to play through the entire game to get those scenes.
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Post by SyberiaWinx » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:15 pm

resolution, codec, container, and bitrate
Say he should rip them again, what should he choose for those?
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Post by Kionon » Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:22 pm

SyberiaWinx wrote:
resolution, codec, container, and bitrate
Say he should rip them again, what should he choose for those?
Resolution: 640x480 (fairly standard for standard definition 4:3 source)
Codec: HUFFYUV, Lagarith, Uncompressed if he has the space, you shouldn't worry about bitrate with lossless. If he needs to compress, then DV, and the highest bitrate he can afford.
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