The most important aspect to an AMV?

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Post by EvaFan » Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:40 am

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Eva-Fan wrote:From what I see on every thread the Aspect ratio seems to be the most important thing. Its the first thing people look for
No, it's the first thing we see :roll:
First of all, its not the first thing everyone sees, but apparently it is to you. A person can watch a video and never realize the AR is wrong till re-watching. Who's to say you wont tell the sound quality or video quality is bad first before the AR? Who's to say you wont see that the vid has no sync before realizing the AR is wrong?

So you list your critiques in the order that u find them instead of the order of importance?

It seems that when the AR is wrong, its the first thing that they mention. They could of mentioned many other things before that but instead they chose AR. Doesn't that mean it is in fact important to them even if they don’t realize it? When they see the video even if it is the first thing they see, If they notice the AR is wrong then their opinion for the whole rest of the video is effected. To lose your audience in the very beginning would be a waist.

Then again I've never considered what's important to other people in AMV's cause their not the ones making my ideas. I am.

BTW I'm not bashing you. Lately I've been writing a lot of opposition essay's in English against norms and its had an effect on me :? .
"The people cannot be [...] always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to [...] the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to public liberty. What country can preserve its liberties, if it's rulers are not warned [...] that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants."-Thomas Jefferson

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Post by godix » Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:58 am

If you say 'i didn't like this part...' the creator will often reply with that's your opinion and your videos suck so what do you know and so on. It easily ends up with a rather lot of drama and arguing. There's 8+ deleted pages in the ayumix2 thread that proves this. OTOH AR is a simple fact. It's either correct or it isn't. There's really no arguing about it. So if the AR is wrong it's the easiest thing to latch onto when explaining what's wrong with the video since it's the one least likely to end up as a fight.

Plus AR is generally viewed as something that's basic. If you couldn't take the effort to get the AR right than odds are you didn't take the effort to do decent syncing, interesting effects, etc. So when people complain about the AR what they're usually complaining about is that the editor didn't put any effort into the video. Rather than getting in depth on if not syncing to some element was laziness, stupidity, or intentional artistic design it's easier to say the AR was off and call it done. See above for why that's the easy option.

And third reason AR gets mentioned so much, some people are uncomfortable with their own opinions. Some think their own editing sucks so that disqualifies them from commenting on others. Some think that 'here's a technical problem you had' makes them sound more informed and better than their actual opinion. Some think telling someone you just thought the video was boring is mean spirited.

Some do it because it's a lot easier to tell the AR was off than it is to tell the beatsync was off. You gotta pay attention to notice beatsync or the like and not many actually pay close attention to every video they see, AR is instantly recognizable at a glance to many people.

So long story short, AR is brought up a lot (and video quality in general for the same reasons) even though I actually don't think most people consider it all that important.
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Post by Pas » Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:21 am

godix wrote:Entertainment. You can fuck up all the other categories but as long as you entertain me it's fine. That being said, being entertaining is a lot harder to do without at least some originality.
While I agree with this, labellings an AMV as "entertaining" could be referring to many things. I know it's impossible to say "do this and this, and your AMV will be good" but surely there are some major elements that would work to enhance it's entertainment?

I'm not an expert on any of this, so that's why I brought this up to get people's opinions on it.

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Post by Chiikaboom » Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:30 am

mmm everything but visual quality.

feck visual quality.
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Post by Scott Green » Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:32 am

Chiikaboom wrote:mmm everything but visual quality.

feck visual quality.
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Post by Kevmaster » Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:58 am

Audio Quality.



If the Audio Quality sucks, the whole Vid sucks.

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Post by Emong » Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:20 am

Quality issues aside, I'd say action / editing sync, which to me means technical and mood sync and how much the video affects me emotionally and intellectually ;) Simply said.

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Post by Pas » Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:26 am

Hmm a lot of editors have mentioned the mood, I suppose it's a combination of visuals, sync and pace? Well actually, I guess all the aspects come into play for that. So in other words, a good AMV needs all of them to be well done obviously.

However, if one of them were to be done incorrectly, which one would have the largest negative impact on the AMV?

I was thinking if the visuals sucked, then the AMV would suffer a great deal. I mean, there's the whole issue with subtitles, interlacing etc. And a lot of the members here are quality whores, so I guess that may be one of the most important things?
Chiikaboom wrote:mmm everything but visual quality.

feck visual quality.
If you have time to post here, maybe you should have some more time to GET YER ASS WERKIN ON THE FUKO AMV.

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Post by Chiikaboom » Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:36 am

Pas1990 wrote:
Chiikaboom wrote:mmm everything but visual quality.

feck visual quality.
If you have time to post here, maybe you should have some more time to GET YER ASS WERKIN ON THE FUKO AMV.

Bish.
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Post by Moonie » Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:44 am

Chiikaboom wrote:mmm everything but visual quality.

feck visual quality.
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Pas1990 wrote:I'm not sure if this has already been posted (I did a search and found nothing) but I was wondering that, for all you editors, what do you think is the most important element in an AMV, using 7 of the options listed when you give an OP (excluding effort and overall) and adding the other 7 listed below.

In other words, out of:
  • - Originality
    - Visual Quality
    - Sound/Audio Quality
    - Sync (internal, lyrical, beat etc)
    - Lipsync
    - Effects
    - Pace
    - Re-viewability
    - Fanservice
    - Tuna
    - Use of VGM/OC Remixes
    - Pogo Sticks
    - Dancing Ferrets
    - Use of VGM/OC Remixes with Dancing Ferrets
Which do you find most/least important in regards to how much you enjoy the AMV, and how you rate it?

Just rate it from 1 - 8 (1 being the most important to you, 8 being the least)

Although this is all based on personal preference, I'd still ike to know what you think of it.

Originality = 3
Visual Quality =6
Audio = 1
Sync = 2
Lipsync = 2
Effects = 2
Pace = 2
Re-viewability = 2
Fanservice = 1
Tuna = 1
Use of VGM/ OC Remixes = 1
Pogo Sticks = 1
Dancing Ferrets = 1
Use of VGM/OC Remixes with Dancing Ferrets = 1

Or if i was to rate it as 1 being the least important to me and 8 being the most...
Originality = 5
Visual Quality = 2
Audio = 8
Sync = 7
Lipsync = 7
Effects =7
Pace = 7
Re-viewability = 7
Fanservice = 500
Tuna = 750
Use of VGM/ OC Remixes = 1600
Pogo Sticks = 1300
Dancing Ferrets = 2000
Use of VGM/OC Remixes with Dancing Ferrets = 5000

Yeah, it would probably be something around that
Probably off a lil though...
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