Paprika AMV - Electric Light Orchestra

DRWii · Post by **DRWii** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:19 pm

My 10th AMV. Hope you enjoy, and please leave a comment!

Orwell · Post by **Orwell** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:59 pm

You are not making a film, we don't need such a long and pointless opening.If you really want to introduce text like that, intregrate into the opening of the actual video somewhere. The opening music has plenty of room for scenes you had used elsewhere in the video.

While I understand your choice of the anime, much of your scene selection is simply off. It's neither a euphoric madness, a dystopian world, or a tasteful contrast between the two, it's just wrong. Not all, some sequences worked, mostly the outdoor festival ones, but these working presentations are too few and far between. Building on that, much of your sync of even those poorly chosen scenes were off. Prominent beats were either ignored completely, or given only a token of attention before you turned to syncing to... lyrics? Anything? Hard to tell.

Finally, WTF did you do to the quality? The original source looks beautiful, and with even the lightest of filtering jobs this could have looked so much better.

DRWii · Post by **DRWii** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:32 am

Orwell wrote:Finally, WTF did you do to the quality? The original source looks beautiful, and with even the lightest of filtering jobs this could have looked so much better.

Okay, I won't try to defend or excuse everything else you brought up (since there is a mixture of validity and a matter-of-opinion), but as for the video quality: it's just because of the software I use. We really don't have anything to get things up to DVD quality. Believe me, if I could, I would. Especially for "Paprika" (nothing else I've used has this level of animation).

Orwell · Post by **Orwell** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:03 am

DRWii wrote:
Orwell wrote:Finally, WTF did you do to the quality? The original source looks beautiful, and with even the lightest of filtering jobs this could have looked so much better.
Okay, I won't try to defend or excuse everything else you brought up (since there is a mixture of validity and a matter-of-opinion), but as for the video quality: it's just because of the software I use. We really don't have anything to get things up to DVD quality. Believe me, if I could, I would. Especially for "Paprika" (nothing else I've used has this level of animation).

Your telling me you can't use either the AMVapp OR just plain old avisynth? Somehow I doubt that. What are you editing with? I don't think it's two VHSes.

DRWii · Post by **DRWii** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:53 pm

Orwell wrote:Your telling me you can't use either the AMVapp OR just plain old avisynth? Somehow I doubt that. What are you editing with? I don't think it's two VHSes.

This is DRWii's Mom, since I help him with the technical stuff sometimes

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We used DVD Decrypter to rip the DVD, Avid Free DV 1.6.1 to edit and save to AVI, and VirtualDubMod 1.5.4.1 with AviSynth 2.5 (I think) to compress the video (and mux the compressed audio to the AVI) -- all as suggested on http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/xvid.html, http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... audio.html, and other pages on the guide (well, as much as possible when they haven't been updated to keep up with changes to the apps they reference ^_^).

I think the problem this time is that we probably should have stopped after the first compression. Going back to that one will up it from ~40MB to ~55MB, but it may be worth the hassle. Not today, though -- homework takes precedence

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DRWii's Mom

Radical_Yue · Post by **Radical_Yue** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:24 pm

DRWii wrote: DRWii's Mom

Make me some cookies, woman.

post-it · Post by **post-it** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:28 pm

.. LOL .. now THAT was Original Thinking and it fits that song perfectly ^_^

ELO with Jeff Lynn; he remarked when they wrote that song, "we haven't the faintest idea of what video to place with that song -- someone will find a Video that explains it"

P.S. .. I like the idea of calling her "Twilight"

Minion · Post by **Minion** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 5:18 pm

wrong aspect ratio, mom

Topstar_Productions · Post by **Topstar_Productions** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 5:25 pm

it's hard for me to not mentally compare any AMV with this song to Daicon IV, but this one was pretty decent I thought. Yeah quality wasn't that great but it was watchable, and I think the combo of lyric and beat sync worked quite nicely.

Good Job

godix · Post by **godix** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 5:40 pm

Daicon did it better and that was 20 years ago. But still this surprisingly wasn't all that bad. There was more lyric sync going on than Orwell gives you credit for although the scene choice was rather random. OTOH the footage had more movement in the first few minutes than I've seen in all of some dance MEPs. At least you didn't rely on being an effects whore to keep it the pace up.

Mom: Use the <a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... /">updated guide</a>, including <a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... x264gui</a>, and get the damned AR right.