When should a newbie no longer be called a newbie?

Stryker · Post by **Stryker** » Sat Nov 02, 2002 8:01 pm

This is a question that has bugged me for a while now. At what point in a newbie's life is he no longer a newbie? Is there a right of passage that the creator must complete? Is it the number of videos completed, The average quailty of the videos, the numbers of contest won, The number of post in the forum, Number of Cons that this creator has been too, or overall time that they've been a AMV creator ?

What is it that makes a person now longer a newbie? And I want to know where in this massive community of creators do I stand... I already know that I'm a unknown, I just wana know if I'm a unknown newbie or a unknown pro?

Thank you for your time.

_faerie_ · Post by **_faerie_** » Sat Nov 02, 2002 8:09 pm

50 posts and a amv

Stryker · Post by **Stryker** » Sat Nov 02, 2002 8:17 pm

ehhhh, for some reason I figured it would be a little deeper than that.

But, I'll keep that in mind and see what everyone else thinks. Thanx.

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Sat Nov 02, 2002 8:25 pm

What difference does it make if you're a "newbie" or a "pro"?

Stryker · Post by **Stryker** » Sat Nov 02, 2002 8:33 pm

Mostly for me it's the principal of it, But I do think this is a question that should be answered, in one way or another. So maybe future newbies could look back to this and know what to aim for. I mean it's not like you can just snap a finger and say. I'm a pro, or He's a newbie. It's not that simple, almost nothing is that simple.

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Sat Nov 02, 2002 8:40 pm

To be a pedant:

The moment you've seriously tried to make an AMV, you're no longer inexperienced in the AMV craft and are therefore no longer a newbie.

I'm pretty sure (1) very few of us get paid to do AMVs and (2) AMVing is something which requires specialized knowledge and a lot of time, so either almost nobody or everybody is a pro.

I'm sure that that came across as being indecisive and useless, so here's another point of view:

Future newbies can just say "gee, this looks cool, I'll try it out", then make a video, say "omfg that sux0rz" and try again, say "omfg that sux0rz" and try again, say "omfg that sux0rz" and try again, and so on. When they think they know what they doing, they think and be pro, for great justice.

Insight · Post by **Insight** » Sat Nov 02, 2002 8:44 pm

Varies from person to person, I think. Possibly when you can look at their music videos and see less cliches then the number you can count on two hands. Cliches, I think, are different from mistakes, because once a newbie slowly becomes "accustomed" to seeing a bunch of different music videos, what works, what doesn't, and what's been done a million different times by a million different people, that's when they seek to be more creative. Once they succeed...well, then, I think that's when they've made the switch (or are in the process of making it) from "newbie" to "pro."

Stryker · Post by **Stryker** » Sat Nov 02, 2002 8:54 pm

trythil : Good answer, I've been serious about my vidoes from number 2 out, but I still belive it's deep than just that.

Insight: That's also true, but as you said "Varies from person to person, I think." So one person's pro may be a newbie in another's eye.

I'm feeling more enlightened, but I still would like further insight(no pun intended). About this.

thanx

Sub0 · Post by **Sub0** » Sat Nov 02, 2002 9:06 pm

when he earns it. then of coarse, once not a noob, you can become a noob again ;-p it all depends on how idiotic you make yourself look

FirestormXIII · Post by **FirestormXIII** » Sat Nov 02, 2002 9:09 pm

When they stop worrying whether they're a n00b or not anymore.