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20:46 <quadir> yeah, I should mentioned, this video is Rated R
20:47 <G_Q> R? By who?
20:47 <quadir> by the hentaiiiii
20:47 <DriftRoot> oh god, quadir, you're corrupting minors!
20:48 <Nojiko> That was so like
20:48 <Nojiko> It had so many effects layered onto it
20:48 <Nojiko> You couldn't even see hentai
21:01 <quadir> so how about tonight's website advertisement?
21:01 * Nojiko could show you a ss if you want
21:01 <Nojiko> I think that
21:02 <Nojiko> It had unneccessary effects! XD
21:02 <G_Q> quadir: In a word, ugh.
21:02 <inthesto> Well, it's a good advertisement
21:02 * G_Q agrees with Noj
21:02 <inthesto> Flashy, catches the eye, catches the ear
21:02 <Nojiko> It had so many effects it was hard to see the video
21:02 <Rathisponge> I thought the trailer did a good job at advertising the website, which I believe was the intent.
21:02 <quadir> Nojiko: that's true, I almost though it had tearing for awhile.
21:02 <G_Q> The problem with the entire thing was the fact that it just gives its tagline ... then Konata wakes up.
21:03 <G_Q> I mean... she dreams of advertising?
21:03 <Nojiko> In fact, it probably had more effects than my attempt to make an effect so insane it actually made my video unwatchable.
21:03 <G_Q> That made no sense.
21:03 <PaperIsland> Yeah, it went overboard on effects which were not generally very pretty
21:03 <Nojiko> Also it was going through anime genres
21:03 <PaperIsland> I thought it was effective as an advertisement though
21:03 <Nojiko> And skips like... tons of them
21:03 <Nojiko> And does hentai, of all things
21:03 <DriftRoot> I felt it was a rather blatant example of filler stuck between two rather unique bookends.
21:03 <inthesto> Noj: It's an advertisement for a website
21:03 <Nojiko> Oh
21:03 <G_Q> Problem is, it doesn't appeal to me as an advertisment.
21:03 <inthesto> I think hentai is a good choice if you want to pull people in
21:03 <PaperIsland> Technically... for the popularity of hentai in terms of dvd sales, it's really under represented in amvs
21:04 <Nojiko> Yeah but
21:04 <DriftRoot> Me neither
21:04 <Rathisponge> I thought the effects were overused at some points, especially during the hentai sequence, but I also wondered if it was intentional to keep the hentai from being too overt
21:04 <Nojiko> You can't even see that hentai
21:04 <G_Q> Since I already frequent two major sites.
21:04 <Nojiko> There was at least 20 layers of effects on it.
21:04 <Servo> Phew, done OPing finally.
21:04 <inthesto> Rathi: Yeah, I'm pretty sure the effects were to partially censor out the Hentaio
21:04 <DriftRoot> To me, if it was a "trailer" advertisement, it didn't really follow the rules...it didn't build up...it just slapped stuff down and carried on.
21:04 <inthesto> And it's pretty obvious the video is built to be really sensationalist
21:04 <Nojiko> If there was any more colour replacement or whatever (I'm bad with effect names) I'd start kicking it.
21:05 <G_Q> Also, why only the short list of genres?
21:05 <inthesto> It's not really supposed to appeal to anything other than shallow perception
21:05 <Rathisponge> I thought the idea of switching between each genre as searching on the website was clever.
21:05 <inthesto> GQ: So the video stays short
21:05 <inthesto> Remember, it's an ADVERTISEMENT
21:05 <Nojiko> It said Romance genre
21:05 <Nojiko> And showed one anime in it
21:05 <inthesto> How long are TV commercials?
21:05 <DriftRoot> Yeah, there was ample time for a lot more genres, would have made it much more interesting. Maybe use more series, as well, four just doesn't cut it.
21:05 <Nojiko> What exactly is this website?
21:05 <Servo> But the editor intended this video to be a dream.
21:06 <inthesto> AMVNews.ru
21:06 <Nojiko> I think that would help us all out more
21:06 <inthesto> Read the video info
21:06 <Nojiko> Read video info?
21:06 <Nojiko> Who does that? XD
21:06 <inthesto> Servo: No, the editor intended this video to be an ad
21:06 <quadir> Rathisponge: yeah, that was cute
21:06 <Servo> Not according to the description.
21:06 <Nojiko> There are tons of genres on that site
21:06 <inthesto> The premise of "Konata's Dream" is just a tool he uses to pull in the viewers with something unique
21:06 <Nojiko> ...
21:06 <quadir> and I'm happy to see someone do the viewing videos pretense in something OTHER then pale cocoon
21:06 <DriftRoot> It's a trailer dream ad....none of which I thought were very successful.
21:07 <PaperIsland> One thing that confused me... is the website entirely russian? Because if so, why put the genre titles in English?
21:07 <DriftRoot> It's not a good trailer, it's not a good dream sequence, it's not a terribly good ad.
21:07 <G_Q> See, when I think of Konata dreaming, I would think more of, say, .hack
21:07 <Nojiko> Russians use the same genre names xD
21:07 <inthesto> Paper: That one is beyond me, to be honest
21:07 <G_Q> Since she's an MMO junkie.
21:07 <Nojiko> They know Comedy genre as.... comedy
21:07 <inthesto> GQ: Konata is a popular anime character.
21:07 <inthesto> Thus we use her.
21:07 <inthesto> No need to be consistent with the actual series
21:07 <G_Q> I mean, for effective advertising that fits the character.
21:08 <Nojiko> Konato is a total otaku, she can be seeing anything =/
21:08 <Nojiko> Konata*
21:08 <G_Q> .hack could be the Action portion.
21:08 <PaperIsland> Well, I think it was effective as an advertisement to me because I don't filter out AMVs the same way I do when I'm watching TV
21:08 <DriftRoot> So why not MORE? If I was advertising an AMV site, I'd be packing it full of all kinds of series.
21:08 <Rathisponge> I did not particularly care for the text at the end.
21:08 <G_Q> Dating Sims for the H stuff instead of tentacle porn...
21:08 <Orwell> I has an op in
21:08 <Servo> Does it occur to anyone, that the action was the only genre that felt like the genre. The romance and horror didn't feel like their specific genres.
21:08 <Nojiko> GQ: Nice ideas =s
21:08 <G_Q> I mean, a little thought could have actually made it a little more interesting and more towards the character'\
21:08 <PaperIsland> I agree servo
21:08 <quadir> hot only need 2 more ops
21:08 <PaperIsland> especially the romance
21:08 <DriftRoot> Servo: yes, that bugged me
21:09 <Nojiko> I think tentacle rape fits hentai genre
21:09 <Nojiko> Quite well, actually
21:09 <Servo> Obviously hentai is hentai.
21:09 <G_Q> s style.
21:09 <quadir> okay here's an idea
21:09 <DriftRoot> The music might have been the problem, it didn't support the necessary genres that are out there
21:09 <quadir> do you think he lifted the genre footage from popular AMVs in said genre?
21:09 <inthesto> Hmm.
21:09 <Servo> Hmmm...
21:09 <quadir> or did he just grab popular scenes from animes usually used in that genre
21:09 <PaperIsland> I don't know
21:09 <Nojiko> He didn't. I'm sure he didn't =/
21:09 <Servo> Yes, the second
21:10 <DriftRoot> I'd say neither.
21:10 <inthesto> I dunno, I wanna say he just grabbed whatever DVDs were nearby
21:10 <quadir> because I can name the video he's "talking" about in each genre segment.
21:10 <Nojiko> Otherwise, it would ptolly look better
21:10 <Nojiko> XD
21:10 <inthesto> Or whatever was on his hard drive
21:10 <PaperIsland> He didn't even use the sunburst in the romance did he?
21:10 <inthesto> quad: ?
21:10 <inthesto> You think he's referencing specific videos with each segment?
21:10 <DriftRoot> That kind of falls flat unless one knows what he's referencing...
21:10 <Orwell> Eh, the genre choices seemed odd, and including hentai as a genre in of itself seems like a poor choice, when you could have focused on some of the other genre's out there.
21:10 <DriftRoot> Which most of us don't, it seems...
21:10 <Servo> Well I wouldn't classify Place Promised as a Romance immediately. It's more Dramatic and Sci-Fi.
21:11 <DriftRoot> Sentimental, even.
21:11 <inthesto> I know I've seen Place Promised several times in romance AMVs
21:11 <inthesto> KARAS in action, definitely
21:11 <Servo> But I would choose something else for Romance.
21:11 <inthesto> Dunno about the other two genres
21:11 <Orwell> I personally didn't recognize any of the videos, I would assume he edited it all myself since all the scenes he used are relatively common
21:11 <DriftRoot> Yes, but you have to build the romance, there wasn't time here. Given the hardcore action and horror and hentai, where's the hardcore romance?
21:11 <quadir> here's his rule of rose AMV: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... _id=139797
21:12 <quadir> icycloud's veil of innocense
21:12 <Nojiko> 10-10-10 ops?
21:12 <quadir> the sequence he used struck me there.
21:12 <inthesto> DriftRoot: Uh, it's not like he's making mini-AMVs here
21:12 <Orwell> He used the footage, but I didn't really get the impression it was to feature the video itself, I thought of it as just a place to get footage
21:12 <DriftRoot> I know, what's that got to do with anything?
21:12 <Nojiko> Wait, that's the same guy?
21:12 <Rathisponge> If I were to include any genres within the amv , I would possibly add Drama.
21:13 <inthesto> Well, you're asking where's the hardcore romance and pointed out there wasn't enough time to build it
21:13 <inthesto> Of course there isn't time to build it, this is an advertisement
21:13 <DriftRoot> A few choice scenes of folks smoothing and hugging would have been more than enough romance for me.
21:13 <quadir> yeah, I'm not expecting plot here beyond the intro and outro pretense
21:13 <inthesto> He's just dropping in typical romance-ish scenes
21:13 <Servo> More or less, the video fails to accomplish its goals overall.
21:13 <Nojiko> Woah, woah
21:13 <inthesto> Uh
21:13 <Nojiko> Slow down... what just happened?
21:13 <DriftRoot> I didn't think what he chose was very romantic
21:13 <quadir> and without being ZephyrStar I don't expect him to splice in the character into the dream or even try.
21:13 <inthesto> Quite the contrary, it accomplishes its goals perfectly
21:13 <ZephyrStar> :o
21:13 <inthesto> sup zs
21:14 <ZephyrStar> ey ying
21:14 <quadir> Servo: it wants to advertise a website, that hosts videos in a few genres.
21:14 <ZephyrStar> so uh
21:14 <quadir> this isn't your typical video.
21:14 <ZephyrStar> that was actually a pretty neat vid
21:14 <inthesto> See, ZS will back me up
21:14 <PaperIsland> I think it's a bit awkward, but as I've never seen another advertising AMV -- it's quite successful in being memorable
21:14 <Servo> To me it felt just fast paced. Focusing on just action.
21:14 <inthesto> (just say I'm asian and therefore always right)
21:14 <DriftRoot> @_@
21:14 <Nojiko> Lol
21:14 <quadir> PaperIsland: Ordained from Above?
21:14 <ZephyrStar> lulz
21:15 <PaperIsland> What was ordained from above advertising...? The org?
21:15 <Orwell> But Ordained from above wasn't actually advertising a site
21:15 <DriftRoot> Servo: but the intro and outro were not fast, so clearly there's not just action skills at play.
21:15 <Orwell> this is.
21:15 <ZephyrStar> I can see it both ways I guess
21:15 <quadir> yeah, but I have a better example... for this anime intro DVD...
21:15 <quadir> that used all the org banners
21:15 <quadir> but anways.
21:15 <Servo> But remember, the video is trying to sell genres individually.
21:15 <Servo> To me each genre felt the same.
21:15 <DriftRoot> There needed to be more genres, then. I was surprised there wasn't.
21:15 <inthesto> Serv: No, it's not
21:15 <inthesto> The video is trying to sell a website
21:16 <quadir> Servo: to me it almost seemed like a grindhouse mashup trailer.
21:16 <ZephyrStar> he shoulda used more than just makoto shinkai stuff for the romance
21:16 <DriftRoot> I wouldn't want to go to that site based on this AMV, and that's what really counts if this is intended to be an advertisement.
21:16 <G_Q> quadir: Well, are we going to watch TJ's Stir Fry next?
21:16 <quadir> Servo: it's applied a certain style to everything, even the romance
21:16 <ZephyrStar> it's like, he's about 70 percent there
21:16 <G_Q> Seems to fit the theme you have...
21:16 <PaperIsland> I went to the site and discovered it's in Russian... so I think there's a problem there
21:16 <ZephyrStar> but after all that effort, it still falls at that point
21:16 <ZephyrStar> it's lacking that additional umph to push it over the top
21:16 <inthesto> ZS: I'll agree that the romance segement is pretty lacking
21:17 <DriftRoot> The horror wasn't spot-on, either.
21:17 <ZephyrStar> the opening with the action I feel is the best part
21:17 <inthesto> But I feel like everyone's missing the overarching point of this video advertising for a website
21:17 <Servo> quadir: I agree on your first statement, but the editing style felt the same through each genre with all the fast paced cuts.
21:17 <ZephyrStar> but I feel like I want to see way more shows and way more variety per segment
21:17 <DriftRoot> Then I guess it wasn't a very good advertisement!
21:17 <inthesto> It doesn't need to accurately grasp at any genre, nor is it supposed to
21:17 <Orwell> I think the Romance part was just a mislabeling, and should have been sentimental, but I agree with sto because he's asian
21:17 <quadir> DriftRoot: hm, in so far as the advertisement reminded me of other good videos, it worked. But maybe that isn't working.
21:17 <inthesto> It's a sensationalist demonstrationg of '
21:17 <inthesto> "CHECK THIS WEBSITE OUT"
21:17 <inthesto> "YEAH, COOL MUSIC AND ANIME RIGHT?"
21:17 <DriftRoot> quadir: no one else "got" the references...
21:17 <quadir> DriftRoot: lurk moar
21:18 <DriftRoot> "YEAH, HENTAI"
21:18 <ZephyrStar> if we're looking at this as a way to get the average internet user or more specifically maybe the average youtube amv noob interested
21:18 <DriftRoot> -_-
21:18 <ZephyrStar> then I think he did it
21:18 * Nojiko nodnods
21:18 <Orwell> Driftroot: Also remember that the guy is very likely a russian
21:18 <inthesto> ZS: That's what I'm thinking
21:18 <Orwell> so he's appealing to the russian community
21:18 <Nojiko> I think at the VERY least, it's much better than narutard amvs.
21:18 <Nojiko> And at the very least
21:18 <Nojiko> It's much better than me
21:18 <Nojiko> XD
21:18 <ZephyrStar> or pretty much any other amv community that's not us or the hardcore MAD community
21:18 <DriftRoot> So does the russian AMVing community differ greatly?
21:18 <Nojiko> Because a-m-v.org rapes?
21:18 <Orwell> and after browsing amvnews.ru independantly of this video, I'd say this is a decent represenation of what is sort of popular.
21:19 <Orwell> hmmm
21:19 <quadir> I don't think it's bad within it's genre. And having seen a few advertisement mvs I'd say this fell somewhere in the middle
21:19 <DriftRoot> Hmm indeed
21:19 <Nojiko> Because I've met people who know you guys by your names.
21:19 <Nojiko> =/
21:19 <Orwell> I'd say the biggest difference as a english speaker I noticed is that they offer 10mb <download previews
21:19 <Servo> Well, let me put it this way. If the video or advertisement was trying to convince me to go to the AMV website, it didn't convince me to do so.
21:19 <inthesto> Noj: Those people clearly have way too much time on their hands
21:19 <Orwell> there's also a different...
21:19 <Nojiko> You have no idea.
21:19 <Nojiko> And I've known them for years
21:19 <Orwell> orientation about the community, it's about creativitiy expressed in any way
21:19 <Nojiko> They've never met you.
21:19 <Nojiko> =.=
21:19 <ZephyrStar> and
21:19 <G_Q> Stir Fry!
21:19 <Orwell> there is no harsh critical view
21:19 <ZephyrStar> I keep thinking I'm gonna hear "WHAT IS ANIME?!"
21:19 <Orwell> AFAIK
21:19 <ZephyrStar> "ANIME IS"
21:20 <Nojiko> I still get people sending me ZephyrStar's Lucky Star video project thingy
21:20 <ZephyrStar> :o
21:20 <ZephyrStar> awsm
21:20 <inthesto> orite
21:20 <Nojiko> NOT AFTER YOU'VE SEEN THEM ALL 500BILLION TIMES! XD
21:20 <inthesto> Meri should be done thrashing FallChild about now. >_>
21:20 <Servo> Did occur to anyone that the sound quality wasn't good either?
21:20 <PaperIsland> But servo, I think the question is, is the video attracting the types of people who will actually enjoy what the site is trying to accomplish? It may not be for the kind of people that frequent the review
21:21 <ZephyrStar> I think it works for that.
21:21 <quadir> Servo: do you think that's a function of your tastes in amvs or of the video itself?
21:21 <Servo> PaperIsland: I guess I see your point in terms of appealing to an outside crowd.
21:21 <Orwell> Servo: not to entirely defend the editor, but, I will point out that quality is definitely not of importance to the community
21:21 <PaperIsland> If you look at those so called "narutard" videos, they're very popular with a certain group of people, and that's what ultimately matters to those people
21:21 <inthesto> Serv: If you're stabbing at the audio quality, you're just grabbing at straws
21:21 <Nojiko> Exactly
21:21 <quadir> inthesto: man I hate that saying.
21:21 <inthesto> The audio sounds as good as it possible can
21:21 <DriftRoot> Ah, I see a new ORG genre possibility: a-m-v.org ad AMVs!
21:21 <inthesto> quad: Yeah, I hate straws too
21:21 * inthesto lifts his beverage container like a manly man.
21:21 <ZephyrStar> and if this is the first time this kid has ever played with this type of motion graphics, then I guess I can let it pass also
21:22 <Servo> Please, I'm only stating what's there in the vid.
21:22 <ZephyrStar> it'd be different if like Decoy did this
21:22 <PaperIsland> I'd like to see Decoy advertise the org
21:22 <inthesto> Serv: You're trying to imply that the audio quality is bad, when it's clearly good
21:22 <PaperIsland> I honestly would
21:22 <inthesto> Paper: He'd just talk about Magic: The Gathering and swear in Afrikaans
21:22 <ZephyrStar> yeah seriously.
21:22 <ZephyrStar> but
21:22 <Servo> To me I sensed dynamic compression in the audio.
21:22 <ZephyrStar> millions would join
21:22 <inthesto> True
21:23 <Servo> It distracted me as an audience member.
21:23 <ZephyrStar> I sensed repetition :o
21:23 <Nojiko> If Decoy did this I don't think it would be different.
21:23 <Nojiko> People would just have the same opinion and be less harsh
21:23 <ZephyrStar> subject wise
21:23 <ZephyrStar> technically there would be a difference
21:23 <Nojiko> And especially in like, this channel where people can bash eachother without restraints...
21:23 <ZephyrStar> *technical skill I should say
21:23 <inthesto> Nah, if Decoy made this video I'd kick him in the balls
21:24 <Nojiko> Exactly.
21:24 <Orwell> You mean you weren't going to before?
21:24 <inthesto> Well, I mean an additional one
21:24 <Nojiko> Lol
21:24 <inthesto> Because I normally do it anyways
21:24 <quadir> so did the 'viewing a video on a website' thing work?
21:24 <Nojiko> Just kick him... harder
21:24 <inthesto> quad: I didn't really think about it as "viewing a video on a website"
21:24 <Nojiko> Viewing a video on a website?
21:24 <Rathisponge> You mean the transitions in the video quadir?
21:24 <Nojiko> Does that EVER work?
21:24 <inthesto> And I don't really think it's meant to be construed that way.
21:24 <quadir> or further 'searching for a video on a website'
21:24 <DriftRoot> It wasn't horrible, but it wasn't the best way to do it, IMO
21:24 <inthesto> Unless the website actually lets you preview AMVs
21:24 <quadir> Rathisponge: yeah. think pale cocoon.
21:24 <Servo> Maybe for an outer audience who has no experience in AMV viewing.
21:25 <ZephyrStar> yep
21:25 <DriftRoot> I'd like to have seen a lot more of the Web site interaction, that would have been fun.
21:25 <ZephyrStar> same
21:25 <Nojiko> We need to like
21:25 <ZephyrStar> especially the idea he had for the romance segment
21:25 <Nojiko> Get a second opinion on all AMVs by some nowhere AMV site
21:25 <Rathisponge> Im sorry Im unfamiliar with pale cocoon. But I thought it was a neat way to transition between each genre but keep it in reference to the website.
21:25 <Nojiko> That doesn't know like every single AMV.
21:25 <ZephyrStar> but have the site coming at all angles perhaps, instead of just linearly right to left
21:25 <quadir> Rathisponge: you seen galaxy bounce?
21:25 <godix> Oh that's right. it's review night
21:25 <DriftRoot> And at different sizes, zoom in on some of the text...get a look at the layout and content of the site. You can't really see much.
21:25 <ZephyrStar> galaxy bounce is <3
21:26 <ZephyrStar> yeah
21:26 <Rathisponge> No.
21:26 <ZephyrStar> if that was AE, then basic 3d ftw
21:26 * Nojiko was waiting for godix to get here for a review.
21:26 <godix> Oh well, it's not like missing another week is a surprise for anyone
21:26 <ZephyrStar> well, if it's subtle it's ftw
21:27 <inthesto> There's something to be said for too subtle
21:27 <godix> so is the video in the topic worth downloading?
21:27 <Nojiko> For you to comment on: Yes.
21:27 <DriftRoot> If you're interested in russian AMVing...ads...
21:27 <quadir> okay, what other videos can people think of that were either advertisements tried to do something funky with 'watching a video' inside it?
21:27 <Nojiko> It sucks but
21:27 <inthesto> godix: Depends on how much you like TV commercials
21:27 <Servo> Russian ads in English.
21:27 <Nojiko> I just wanna hear what you can say about it.
21:27 <Orwell> The one GfN pimped to me earlier
21:27 <DriftRoot> AMV Hell :P
21:28 <inthesto> quad: There was an NTB rip-off that was about "making an AMV"
21:28 <godix> Nojiko: I'd say this video sucks the sweat off a dead donkeys balls but I think that's actually about 3 inches off from what the experience is really like.
21:28 <inthesto> Lemme see if I can dig it up
21:28 <godix> Now that I insulted the video, is it worth watching?
21:28 <Nojiko> I'm sure you could do better once you see it XD
21:28 <Orwell> http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/v ... hp?t=84299
21:28 <ZephyrStar> sto: amv technique beat?
21:28 <DriftRoot> Or worse, depending on how you look at it.
21:28 <inthesto> No
21:28 <inthesto> That one was actually god
21:28 <inthesto> *good
21:28 <ZephyrStar> oh
21:28 <inthesto> There's one that just plain sucks
21:28 <ZephyrStar> I was about to say...are you gonna bash amv technique beat :O
21:29 <ZephyrStar> yeah I think I know what one you're talking about
21:29 <godix> Oh. A trailer. Is it comedy?
21:29 <ZephyrStar> the one with like...the grids of rectangles
21:29 <Orwell> Godix: has tentacle rape
21:29 <Servo> Unfortunately godix, the comedy genre isn't included.
21:29 <DriftRoot> godix: the ending is hilarious - bug death
21:29 <Nojiko> Lol
21:29 <inthesto> ZS: Yeah, and it used Street Fighter as the anime
21:29 <Servo> Unless tentacle rape is hilarious.
21:29 <godix> I'm sensing mixed reviews here.
21:29 <DriftRoot> I think it's meant to encompass comedy externally
21:29 <ZephyrStar> and the kid was all like "omg anybody can do this"
21:30 <Orwell> DR: You mean the video itself is the joke?
21:30 <DriftRoot> Well, obviously the beginning and the ending is the comedy influence.
21:30 <Servo> That;s true.
21:30 <DriftRoot> They don't come out and scream COMEDY as a genre, but it's obviously there.
21:30 <Rathisponge> I can see what you mean Driftroot.
21:30 <inthesto> Okay, I can't find the AMV I was talking about, but it's not really worth watching anyway
21:30 <quadir> here's a video that uses a in-character pretense of someone "viewing" an amv on a computer: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... php?v=4953
21:31 <godix> Is this just a pimp for the russian community like that one org pimping video was?
21:31 <DriftRoot> It would have been much funnier if he HAD screamed COMEDY at the end, actually....
21:31 <Servo> Actually, the beginning and ending I thought was the best part of the entire video.
21:31 <Nojiko> By the time it gets to the end you're too busy trying to find a way to describe how bad some of the effects are.
21:31 <DriftRoot> Servo: me too
21:31 <quadir> but I think the intro segment like that is pretty common, what with things like viewing an amv into a tv
21:31 <Orwell> Godix: Pretty much
21:31 <inthesto> quad: There's also Right Now It's Trick To Make A Music Video
21:31 <inthesto> *tricky
21:31 <inthesto> Where Lain ends up editing the very video she's in
21:31 <inthesto> Also, Fall_Child's segment in the Conet Project, where Lain is watching herself
21:32 <quadir> hm
21:32 <G_Q> Conet itself was pretty wild.
21:32 <inthesto> Hrm, I sense a common theme here.
21:32 <Nojiko> Conet was pretty awesome.
21:32 <G_Q> Truth
21:32 <Servo> Conet: 7...1....3
21:32 <Nojiko> XD
21:32 <G_Q> LOL - LOL - LOL
21:32 <godix> http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... hp?v=83903
21:32 <DriftRoot> damned Trillian laughs...
21:32 <G_Q> 3...0...0... 3...0...0...
21:32 <Rathisponge> Overall I believe the amv did a very good job :)
21:33 <godix> That's what this video reminds me of, except for a different community.
21:33 <godix> And I gotta say if this was meant to pimp the ru community it totally failed to get me the slightest bit interested
21:33 <inthesto> Is it Russia week?
21:33 <quadir> godix: oh, yeah that's the 'amv dvd' intro I was talking about that uses the banners.
21:34 <Orwell> Godix: It's worth visiting for the quality videos that never get uploaded on the org.
21:34 <Orwell> though you gotta dig
21:35 <Servo> Overall the Dream video is cool for attracting outsiders into the AMV viewing. I don't know about me personally though.
21:35 <Nojiko> It's cool to people who haven't seen the really famous AMVs x.x
21:35 <Nojiko> Who are more... casual viewers than like
21:35 <Nojiko> Hooked to this place as if it was a drug
21:35 <quadir> godix: that's just the intro video when you pop the dvd in