Possibly because 99% of anime's I've seen aren't of the porno variety?
Gomenasai!American Anime companies
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valentine
- Joined: Tue Nov 06, 2001 3:01 pm
- Location: WA
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axron27
- Joined: Fri Oct 04, 2002 3:49 am
i'm exasperated with you valentine
I'm talking about anime being a preferable alternative to the other crap that's being shoved down viewers throats and boosting the genre's popularity are you on drugs or are you illiterate? stop commenting on my thread if you can't read. gawd what planet are you on? get your head out of the gutter is porn all you're fixed on? gawd leave me be
I love Lime
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axron27
- Joined: Fri Oct 04, 2002 3:49 am
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axron27
- Joined: Fri Oct 04, 2002 3:49 am
I'm against porn and sick of it get it? anime as an alternat
could your vision be any narrower?
I love Lime
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LittleKefalos
- Joined: Fri Jun 21, 2002 12:09 am
O.K., ok, hold on. Let's not get nasty here.
I think the main problem of miscommunication is that people read my question differently and explored different aspects of it. So it may be this original line of logic which people read differently, responded to and thus influenced others to think differently and so on and so forth ending with everyone having a different set of logic, answering a different question.
To me this is fine, I think it's a good idea to explore all aspects of how, why, what where, etc. anime is brought to different countries by different companies, but realize that what I originally meant was which specific companies are doing a good job releasing anime (on DVD or VHS or TV, etc.).
I'm sorry if I was vague, but feel free to answer any of the more general questions as well.
However, please do not be so negative to specific people who reply (I'm talking about axron27's comment to valentine), in fact in this situation (valentine) was answering the question/statements, just maybe not yours (axron27).
{and this eventually begins to go off topic}
Aside from that axron27 you definitely have a good point, and I agree with you that anime has better role models than America provides (in general). However, there are many great American role models, it's just that sometimes you have to look towards the fringes and away from the mainstream media (though bands like U2 are pretty big, and I personally would say are a good role model for our youth, and yes I know they're not American, but the American media does give them notice). Furthemore, still on the topics of role models I would ask why do we need or look to the media to provide role models, is this not a foolish notion in itself. Most of the people I know don't look towards the American media for role models, in fact they look at it to see what they shouldn't be in many cases (even though Americans are generally hung up about money, but our environment forces us to be in some ways so don't blame it all on us). The best role models in America are either from our past, small time celebrities or, and most importantly, the everyday people in our communities (there are good people everywhere, it's just a few bad or small minded people ruin it for the rest of us, but this happens everywhere).
Just in case you were wondering I was born in America, but my parents were born in Poland and Greece. So generally now I think of myself more as a world citizen than anything (though technically I am an American citizen). I personally feel that a world were country matters less than humanity would be a better one (still of course with the maintanence of individual cultures).
Anyways that was a bit digressive, but the beginning is on topic so don't freak out.
I think the main problem of miscommunication is that people read my question differently and explored different aspects of it. So it may be this original line of logic which people read differently, responded to and thus influenced others to think differently and so on and so forth ending with everyone having a different set of logic, answering a different question.
To me this is fine, I think it's a good idea to explore all aspects of how, why, what where, etc. anime is brought to different countries by different companies, but realize that what I originally meant was which specific companies are doing a good job releasing anime (on DVD or VHS or TV, etc.).
I'm sorry if I was vague, but feel free to answer any of the more general questions as well.
However, please do not be so negative to specific people who reply (I'm talking about axron27's comment to valentine), in fact in this situation (valentine) was answering the question/statements, just maybe not yours (axron27).
{and this eventually begins to go off topic}
Aside from that axron27 you definitely have a good point, and I agree with you that anime has better role models than America provides (in general). However, there are many great American role models, it's just that sometimes you have to look towards the fringes and away from the mainstream media (though bands like U2 are pretty big, and I personally would say are a good role model for our youth, and yes I know they're not American, but the American media does give them notice). Furthemore, still on the topics of role models I would ask why do we need or look to the media to provide role models, is this not a foolish notion in itself. Most of the people I know don't look towards the American media for role models, in fact they look at it to see what they shouldn't be in many cases (even though Americans are generally hung up about money, but our environment forces us to be in some ways so don't blame it all on us). The best role models in America are either from our past, small time celebrities or, and most importantly, the everyday people in our communities (there are good people everywhere, it's just a few bad or small minded people ruin it for the rest of us, but this happens everywhere).
Just in case you were wondering I was born in America, but my parents were born in Poland and Greece. So generally now I think of myself more as a world citizen than anything (though technically I am an American citizen). I personally feel that a world were country matters less than humanity would be a better one (still of course with the maintanence of individual cultures).
Anyways that was a bit digressive, but the beginning is on topic so don't freak out.
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axron27
- Joined: Fri Oct 04, 2002 3:49 am
huh?
only kidding you made some good points but, valentine seems a bit reactive to the subject of porn both pro and con, i've seen some of her other replies on the subject.porn was one of many issues and the replies i'm most looking for is suggestions on how to promote the anime genre in the U.S., because of human nature, the thread could center on the sex issue which is part of a whole and as i feared, sex dominated in the discussion rather than contributed. as an artform i support the anime movement and i gave my reasons and many of the constructive aspects of the genre were pointed out. valentine took my remarks where i didn't want them to go and i felt that my point was totally ignored and it was. if you would offer promotional suggestions i welcome them please the same with valentine and others
I love Lime
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LittleKefalos
- Joined: Fri Jun 21, 2002 12:09 am
OK, that's cool I just didn't want negativity to build. 
Anyways, I think that anime is slowly getting a larger fanbase anyways. I became a fan because of Tenchi Universe (though it wasn't the first anime I watched). It sort of snowballed after that. And it was basically one guy who got me into anime by making me watch this one show.
Then I got my sister into anime and also one other friend sort of (I do mean sort of, only time will tell).
I think if each anime fan helps make at least one, or if they can more fans, it will grow into something massive in a decade or two.
Maybe a few of us on this site will become animators, or famous, and say how oh yeah anime influenced me blah blah blah, kids check it out.
And also if some of eventually have companies which release anime, we should strive to make it good, and market it well.
Please do not forcefeed people anime, start with something light, if you force people too much they will end up hating it (also show them don't tell them, until they seem interested, the last thing you want is people thinking anime is boring).
Specifically I think if Blockbuster or DVD/VHS rental agencies had a special offer for anime rentals for some time, or had an offer were renting a certain video allowed someone to rent a anime title for free as well, this could create new fans.
T.V. execs can help in some respects. Maybe create an anime cable channel.
Just throwing out ideas, there are many more.
Don't feel you have to stick to this line of thought (If you read all the threads you'll see how multiple questions are being answered at once).
Anyways, I think that anime is slowly getting a larger fanbase anyways. I became a fan because of Tenchi Universe (though it wasn't the first anime I watched). It sort of snowballed after that. And it was basically one guy who got me into anime by making me watch this one show.
Then I got my sister into anime and also one other friend sort of (I do mean sort of, only time will tell).
I think if each anime fan helps make at least one, or if they can more fans, it will grow into something massive in a decade or two.
Maybe a few of us on this site will become animators, or famous, and say how oh yeah anime influenced me blah blah blah, kids check it out.
And also if some of eventually have companies which release anime, we should strive to make it good, and market it well.
Please do not forcefeed people anime, start with something light, if you force people too much they will end up hating it (also show them don't tell them, until they seem interested, the last thing you want is people thinking anime is boring).
Specifically I think if Blockbuster or DVD/VHS rental agencies had a special offer for anime rentals for some time, or had an offer were renting a certain video allowed someone to rent a anime title for free as well, this could create new fans.
T.V. execs can help in some respects. Maybe create an anime cable channel.
Just throwing out ideas, there are many more.
Don't feel you have to stick to this line of thought (If you read all the threads you'll see how multiple questions are being answered at once).
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Declan_Vee
- Mr. Poopy Pants
- Joined: Mon Feb 18, 2002 10:56 am
- Location: SA, Australia
... Hey I missed this thread 
axron27, you have some serious issues that should be worked out.
Back on topic... Interesting that AnimEgo was brought up. The only DVDs I've seen from them are the Oh My Goddess DVDs. Interestingly enough, they were in NTSC!
Ian, yourself or some other anime fans, uni clubs, etc should contact Madman and see what can be done about organising something like that. They're really down-to-earth guys and I'm sure they'd be willing to offer some advice, tips, starting points.
As for televising anime, I think it's just wrong... ::ducks barrage of the words "elitest prick":: if it must be shown, it should be done on the multicultural networks (My knowlege of American television is little to none)and as rarely as possible. This board is starting to fill up with people who watch too much televised anime, who barely have the slightest clue as to what else is available to them. If they were to just off the TV, go outside, buy some DVDs (kinda ruins the mood about turning off the TV), joined/started an anime club and went that extra bit further with their appreciation of anime.
/end rant mode.
axron27, you have some serious issues that should be worked out.
Back on topic... Interesting that AnimEgo was brought up. The only DVDs I've seen from them are the Oh My Goddess DVDs. Interestingly enough, they were in NTSC!
Ian, yourself or some other anime fans, uni clubs, etc should contact Madman and see what can be done about organising something like that. They're really down-to-earth guys and I'm sure they'd be willing to offer some advice, tips, starting points.
As for televising anime, I think it's just wrong... ::ducks barrage of the words "elitest prick":: if it must be shown, it should be done on the multicultural networks (My knowlege of American television is little to none)and as rarely as possible. This board is starting to fill up with people who watch too much televised anime, who barely have the slightest clue as to what else is available to them. If they were to just off the TV, go outside, buy some DVDs (kinda ruins the mood about turning off the TV), joined/started an anime club and went that extra bit further with their appreciation of anime.
/end rant mode.
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CaTaClYsM
- Joined: Fri Jul 26, 2002 3:54 am
But if the asians didn't have to pay to watch their anime I'll be damned if I have to. I say put MORE anime on television.
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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LittleKefalos
- Joined: Fri Jun 21, 2002 12:09 am
Don't be too hasty in your TV judgement. TV anime may not be the same as the real thing, and yes it may even turn people off to anime, but at the same time it may be just what brings anime to a wider audience, one which could eventually argue for no editing, etc. and/or an anime channel.
Perhaps TV programs should be required to say that this program has been edited for the following reasons.....
before every anime, they're required to do it before TV movies, etc.
Perhaps TV programs should be required to say that this program has been edited for the following reasons.....
before every anime, they're required to do it before TV movies, etc.