Artistic Philosophy and Its Applications on AMV Production

Moonie · Post by **Moonie** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:52 pm

omegaevolution wrote:
Yokou Seishirou wrote:I completely disagree with this
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who needs philosophy and art in AMVs?, make them for fun damn it!

hell yea! ^_^

aesling · Post by **aesling** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:56 pm

Kionon wrote:
aesling wrote:Then to the one person it will be art, and to the other it won't. I was thinking of a wider cultural interaction between the work and the people who view it, though. If a lot of people enjoy it, and think of it as art, obviously it's going to be a lot more successful as art than the piece that only one person likes. Even if a lot of people like it and a lot of people hate it, it's still provoking lots of serious debate. In some ways, the reaction doesn't really have to be positive for it to be art, if the creator's intent is to make people examine their assumptions (yes, I said the creator's intent; I said it wasn't AS important, not irrelevant). What I think really fails to be art is something that fails to provoke any reaction at all from most people, though I'm not saying something that everyone thinks is awsome is necessarily art if all people think about it is, "lol, that's teh cool" or whatever.
So you argue art as defined by popular election?

What about art not defined as art until later on, perhaps many, many years after it was first created? Plenty of literary figures did not get their due until long after their deaths. Are you arguing that what they produced was not art until they became popular?

That's actually exactly the situation I was thinking about when I made this argument. It may or may not be art before its rediscovery. But even if these great works of literature are great works of art before they became popular, what's the meaning if no one reads them, thinks about them, or talks about them? Popularity and art aren't the same thing, and I was going to say something else but I totally forgot where I was going with this point. I guess what I'm trying to say is that art at its best is highly interactive, and if it doesn't become part of the public consciousness, it becomes irrelevant.

YouTube · Post by **Kionon** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:57 pm

moonie211 wrote:
omegaevolution wrote:
Yokou Seishirou wrote:I completely disagree with this
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who needs philosophy and art in AMVs?, make them for fun damn it!
hell yea! ^_^

AMVs are serious business.

Yok/0 · Post by **Yok/0** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:07 pm

Kionon wrote:
moonie211 wrote:
omegaevolution wrote:
Yokou Seishirou wrote:I completely disagree with this
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who needs philosophy and art in AMVs?, make them for fun damn it!
hell yea! ^_^
AMVs are serious business.

WARNING: This was a quote from Encyclopedia Dramatica, go cry to them.

"AMVs (or anime music videos) are exactly that. Music videos made from clips of anime found online. Usually feature copious amount of stock effects courtesy of their pirated version of Adobe Premiere (or Windows Movie Maker), considered artistic expression by people who are too lazy or untalented to create their own material"

Tsunami Jones · Post by **Tsunami Jones** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:10 pm

Some AMVs are art and some are not.

All art is in the eye of the beholder.

Just because you do not understand it does not mean it is art.

Art is useless.

koopiskeva is good times.

mexicanjunior · Post by **mexicanjunior** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:15 pm

Tsunami Jones is koopiskeva times.

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Tsunami Jones · Post by **Tsunami Jones** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:16 pm

Yok/0 · Post by **Yok/0** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:20 pm

Well I guess My Chocolate runny rain amv is "art" ^^
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Niotex · Post by **Niotex** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:34 pm

If I ever finish my current video. I'll let you guys decide if its art or not. How bout that?

BasharOfTheAges · Post by **BasharOfTheAges** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:50 pm

If a urinal some guy cut up and put his name on is art, anything is. It deludes the meaning and is essentially a big "you're worthless" sticker for art history students, but it's art.