If you were hired to write the Live action Eva movie...

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If you were hired to write the Live action Eva movie...

Post by Vancore » Sat May 31, 2003 7:41 pm

...what would you write it.. if given a chance to do justice to your fav or worst anime choice? Which characters would you cut if you had to.. and which ones would you focus on more? Which plots from the series would you stick with.. or wrap up with? How could your take on it make it better.. or worse then you might think it may become? And would you still accept the chance if you had to stick with these two rules

1. That you must keep the Shinji, Asuka, Rei, Gendo, Eva and the Angels (Although you could presuade one of them away like spidermans Gwen)

2. You were forced to stay within and R rating (sorrowfully, but it could be worse like PG-13atised)

The best director for the movie would probably be the creator but I'm doubting that'll happen. So if its going to be flawed and different in someway, that way might as well be what you would like to see most on the big screen.. or least just so it fails (The 'Stay away from my anime' approach :twisted: ).

I would write down my own opinion on this to start it off but thats still formulating in my mind at the moment. So.. what do you think?

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Post by Lyrs » Sat May 31, 2003 7:51 pm

Simple, I wouldn't create a real life Eva film.




or if i did, i would have live "virtual"- Spirit Within-character-kind of likes, but looking real.

Humans can't do justice to anime characters like Rei.

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Post by Lyrs » Sat May 31, 2003 7:52 pm

And yeah, i lost my train of thought...so, if i were to "write" the scenes:

Simple, i wouldn't change it...except for the intro where we first see shinji with his eva.

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Post by yuppa » Sat May 31, 2003 8:29 pm

Maybe they could get together with square and do another Virtual actor movie with it? That way the characters would not be fucked up more than they already are eh? :)
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Post by Anlushac11 » Sat May 31, 2003 8:48 pm

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If I were going to do a live action EVA first thing I would do is try and hire the EVA creator as a technical advisor.

The only way they can do it correctly is have someone who is a fan do it. At least a fan would try to be faithful to the original.

And with the state of the modern CGI hollywood graphics they could do a very good job as long as its done faithfully.

Problem is finding a Director without an ego who will do it faithfully.

But I believe it can be done.

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Post by yuppa » Sat May 31, 2003 8:50 pm

I think the director of the spirits within would be a good solid choice for the job. :)
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Post by kthulhu » Sat May 31, 2003 8:52 pm

If I directed the Evangelion movie, I'd take a page from Warner Brothers' "Matrix" franchise and do it anime style!
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Post by Vancore » Sun Jun 01, 2003 2:14 am

hmm, well I have to agree with you there lyrs, that would be the best way to do it even tho it probably won't be done.. because of the time restraints leveled against it. Just because we've never seen something that could pull off a Rei succesfully yet just means that theres still things to look foreword to in the future. What if, by chance, they actually get it right, and come out with something nobody.. anywhere.. has ever seen on film before and that revolutionizis the filming industry (Think of the last thing to truely shock you in cinema). Now that would be something to see.

As for finding the right director, if we can find one on the forums that comes up with something that many people feel would work then I'd have more faith that the movies producers will also find someone akin to actually accomplishing bringing Eva to life.

Since no one else has taken a serious pot shot at accomplishing this (outside of making it virtual and another anime type form) I shall try to.. sock bashings and opinions are welcome of what you think about it. If you think you can do better you are welcome to try :wink: .

Alright, here's my overview of how the Eva Live action movie could be accomplished without dishonouring.
First off I wouldn't do the whole series, I'd throw hints here and there about something bigger happening in the background but never tell the viewer what that is. Secondly, I would keep the entire cast of the anime, and have there relationships be the prime focus of the story. Third, I would backpeddle many of the fight scenes with the angels but make them quick and cool, not drawn out like the matrix reloaded (. The biggest battles being with the third, fifth, seventh, and eighth angels. Fourth, most of what happened between Eps 1-11 that have to deal with charecterization would be left in, and maybe somethings expanded upon (ie taken from later eps in the series) which is why I'm going to talk mainly about the battles. Fifth, the movie would end on episode 11

Taking in account all the episodes leading up to ep 11 here is how I would make the cuts and merges. Eps 4, and 5 would be overlapping eatchother for time restraints. Ep 7 being would be annexed and ignored. It basically had nothing to do with much in the series besides making Misato think somethings being kept from her and that can be shown in a majority of different ways. Ep 8 would be a side story of sorts. Besides the comedic value there wouldn't be much missing. I think Asuka could have taken care of the Angel herself without Shinji so that event could add to her ego when they first meet. Besides, do we need to see Every Angel die, can't we have a aftermath of sorts for at least one of them?

So I decided to end the movie on episode 11, why this one? Why the Magma Dive Episode? A few things of note.

I never did like that episode, I thought that the whole thing of captureing one alive should have been more of an event then it ever was in the anime. There was tension but it was still pretty light, I mean they did say something along the lines that this may cause the third impact if they don't capture it correctly. I was very disappointed when after all the fuss made over the angel very little was actually accomplished. Although if it was worked on a bit more I think this episode could do very well as a forshadowing tool for future movies if one was ever to be made, and it does come to a feel good conclusion which most audiances would prefer.

With a little more char development the movie could end with Shinji feeling more confident in himself (Or looking so) and the rest of the cast looking pretty sane (As not deeply emotionally disturbed). Forshadowing of the council of things to come but are of very little importance to the story as of now. Maybe some ramblings of what the angels really are and where they come from. This is to make the audiance believe that Nerv doesn't know what they are facing yet (When they do) but it is concluded that the attacks have ceased for now and our hero's Shinji, Asuka, and Misato fet a little vacation time. The End :P


There thats it, you think that would make a good live action Eva movie? I don't think I strayed to far from the source material, and I do think it concludes itself rather well before diving into the deep philosphical, cathilic, spritual, scientific, symbolisim dreanched, mumbo jumbo mindfuck we all associate NGE with... or at least many of us do :wink: .

Not perfect, but I think its close.

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Post by Oboe » Sun Jun 01, 2003 11:09 am

That's a very thought out answer, Vancore! I'm honestly not sure what I would do with the Live Action Eva Movie, but ONE thing I would want to preserve is the characters. Their struggles and personalities are SO essential to the Evangelion story. Even though I can't stand Shinji cuz he's a whiney, wussy boy, he IS the main character and if they turn him into something he's not I'll be VERY upset.

I saw something interesting once. I was reading Marvel Mangaverse and there's a section in it about the Fantastic Four . . . only . . . done in Eva style. Sue Storm (spelled Souix in this version) was . . . well . . . REI! Looked like Rei, acted like Rei, etc. Jonathon Storm (Jonatha in this) was the official Asuka. Imagine Asuka in a 200 foot flaming EVA of Hellfire. Oooo, that's scary. And Shinji, check this out, was the Almighty Bejamin Grimm (pronounced Ben-ya-meen). They kinda exaggerated his personality but it was still Shinji. Gendo and Kaji were kinda merged together to create Reed Richards. And they didn't have super powers! They had these "plug suits" that would creat 200 foot metatalent manifestations that had a very similar atmosphere to the EVAs!

Now, I know you're thinking I'm waaaaaay off from my topic here but I want you to notice something. The spirit of Evangelion was THERE! Even if it was VERY different, the personalities were there and the atmosphere was there. So I think if they can just keep that atmosphere, that FEELING of Evangelion, they should be able to create a decent movie.
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Post by RedFusionX » Sun Jun 01, 2003 1:19 pm

Simple, I would refuse, anime is in a category of it's own, and I think that it should be left animated
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