most moving ending

Savia · Post by **Savia** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 6:22 am

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dwchang wrote:If you're referring to the last 6 episodes or whatever, I understand. If not, THE ending (like last 5 minutes), I actually like that and have noticed a big difference between what westerners think of it compared to easterners.
I'm talking about the last five minutes. It disturbed me to no end that Characters X and Y could proceed at the end to live normal lives apart. But then, I tend to have the problem with fantasy in general that it seems as if most characters change during the storyline but at the end seem to practically forget everything they learned and did. Like the Wizard of Oz--in the book Dorothy wasn't just dreaming; she was actually gone. And yet she's perfectly content with being away from Oz, or so it seems (the sequels may say otherwise). If I were to get sucked into a magical fantasy world, I don't know if I'd be content with living life like I used to before the magical event.

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dwchang · Post by **dwchang** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 5:13 pm

Jebadia wrote:They laughed? WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111?????????

Yup and Shoji Kawamori was pretty annoyed and thus his explanation about West and East cultural differences.

trident wrote: I'm talking about the last five minutes. It disturbed me to no end that Characters X and Y could proceed at the end to live normal lives apart.

Well not exactly. Sure they're physically apart, but as Savia has implied, their love was so strong that they'd remember each other forever. Character X even says that they can see each other whenever they want, which is shown at the end.

Anyway, the reason I *like* the ending is because that type of love is so much more powerful then the stereotypical "they lived happily ever after yadda yadda" that every show cops out with. We need to realize that Character X has a life outside of Gaia that she needs to return to...with a family and so on. And Character Y has the same with his own world.

The fact that they can still remember each other and love each other without physically being with each other is far more powerful and strong than typical romances IMO. That's why I like it.

That's also the reason there is a difference between East and West cultures. No offense, but Western culture and movies dictate physical romance and the "being together" as important while Eastern doesn't focus on this and thus why no one in Japan complained about the ending and everyone in the states does.

I guess that sounds arrogant, but again, at AX2002 (maybe 2001), they laughed during the Escaflowne Movie ending and Kawamori was confused.

El Banana · Post by **El Banana** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:54 pm

dwchang wrote:The fact that they can still remember each other and love each other without physically being with each other is far more powerful and strong than typical romances IMO. That's why I like it.

That is, of course, until character X discovers character Y is cheatin on her.

Moonlight Soldier · Post by **Moonlight Soldier** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:05 pm

Savia Spoiler wrote:Love strong enough to live apart also occurs in His Dark Materials. I never cried over a book like I did over that one. It was an epiphany.

I BAWLED!!!! YOU HAVE NO IDEA, there are Tear stains on my pages..

And hmm movie endings that moved me eh?

Well I'm a total sucker for emotion and all...(I cry in action movies when a character I like dies....*shut up you! yes you going WTF* )

Hmm...I'd have to say:

Fushigi Yuugi Eikoden

J-0080 · Post by **J-0080** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:42 pm

Savia Spoiler wrote:Love strong enough to live apart also occurs in His Dark Materials. I never cried over a book like I did over that one. It was an epiphany.

Agreed, that ending made me really sad to.

After getting to know the characters through those 3 books and watch as they began to care for each other.........*sniff*

Onideus_Mad_Hatter · Post by **Onideus_Mad_Hatter** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 9:33 pm

Wow, I can't believe no one has mentioned Angelic Layer, that whole series was just one giant emotional build up between Misaki and her mother.

Although granted most people tend to make the assumption that Angelic Layer is all just about fighting (mainly cause 80% or so of all AL vids are fighting ones).

Here's one of mine that's all about the emotion:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... php?v=6687

Uh, keep in mind there are MAJOR spoilers and if you haven't seen the series you'll need to read the series synopsis I put in the description to know what's going on, otherwise you'll be lost.

SSJVegita0609 · Post by **SSJVegita0609** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:02 pm

BERSERK

(I know its not the real ending, but still... Jeebus!

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FATTY_VM · Post by **FATTY_VM** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 11:03 pm

ive just realized i see a few VoH hameln fans in this thread, loved that series, i didnt think many have heard of it though, good to see it might be coming back

dwchang · Post by **dwchang** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 11:09 pm

Onideus_Mad_Hatter wrote:Wow, I can't believe no one has mentioned Angelic Layer, that whole series was just one giant emotional build up between Misaki and her mother.

Although granted most people tend to make the assumption that Angelic Layer is all just about fighting (mainly cause 80% or so of all AL vids are fighting ones).

Here's one of mine that's all about the emotion:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... php?v=6687

Uh, keep in mind there are MAJOR spoilers and if you haven't seen the series you'll need to read the series synopsis I put in the description to know what's going on, otherwise you'll be lost.

ARGH!!! Put the spoiler tag. I just bought the first Angelic Layer DVD.

TallonKarrde23 · Post by **TallonKarrde23** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 11:36 pm

how long is Angelic Layer? o.O