Who do you think is the Best Fighter of ALL TIME!!!!!

EarthCurrent · Post by **EarthCurrent** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 12:16 am

zachthegnome wrote:Gotta say it, Ryu from Street Fighter 2

RYU:KEN IS NOT A TERRORIST!

KEN:Yes I am, Ryu. Shut up already.

SAKURA:Oh, hey guys, what's up?

KEN:Hey, Sakura. Me and Ryu are on another training pilgrimage.

RYU:Yes. We are looking for strong fighters to challenge. Do you know of any?

SAKURA:Well, we have all sorts of people up at the dojo. Some are pretty strong.

RYU:Take us to your dojo and I will see if any are up for a fight.

SAKURA:You are soooo kewl, Ryu! Here it is! The Saikyo-Ryo Dojo!

KEN:This is a pretty sad looking dump. People actually train here?

DAN:Who are these people, Sakura? They are pretty stupid to insult the Saikyo-Ryo Dojo. Do I need to smack your pretty face in order to make you take back what you just said?

KEN:Whoa-hoo, calm down Mr. Pink. We're just a couple of wandering martial artist looking for honest competition.

DAN:Honest competition? So you are challenging my dojo?

KEN:We sure are. Bring us your strongest students!

DAN:Hmmm, these two seem rather strong...who should I send against them?

E. Honda:Yo, Dan. You see that we are out of frozen burritos? I mean, man, can't you keep the fridge stocked?

DAN:YOU WILL FIGHT HIM FIRST!!!

E. Honda:W-What? ::sweatdrop::

KEN: I'll take him!!! SHIPPUU JINRAI KYAKU!!!

E. Honda:AAAAGHHHH!!! Here I go Agaaaaain!!!
::E. Honda flies into the sky becoming a tiny star in the distance:: *ping*

KEN:He was pretty weak. Isn't there anybody stronger around?

DAN:Er...yeah! Sakura, show 'em how tough my extensive training has made you!

SAKURA:Okay!!!

KEN:I don't know...fightin' a little girl...it just doesn't...

SAKURA:SHUN GOKU SATSU!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KEN:AAAAGHHHH!!! Here I go Agaaaaain!!!
::Ken flies into the sky becoming a tiny star in the distance:: *ping*

DAN:*gulp* T-that was pretty frightening...

RYU:Impressive! You've become a lot stronger, Sakura. Care to take me on?

SAKURA:You bet'cha!!! Let's go!!!

RYU & SAKURA:HADOUKEN!!!

DAN:Booooring...

SAKURA:Oh...sorry, Dan. SHINKUU HADOUKEN!!!

RYU:AAAAGHHHH!!! Here I go Agaaaaain!!!
::Ryu flies into the sky becoming a tiny star in the distance:: *ping*

SAKURA:Yatta!!! I am da winna!

DAN::::SWEATDROP::: she is truly terrifying

SAKURA:So how did I do, sensei?

DAN::::BIGGER SWEATDROP::: Er...uhm...yes. Yes, you did very well. But you still need more training. You still need more motion in your knees.

SAKURA:Really?

SAKURA:Afraid so. But we can work on it tomorrow. You should get started on dinner now. I''m starving.

SAKURA:GREAT! I'll get right on it!

And the Moral of this story is:

CAMMY:There was a moral?

BLANCA:AAAROOOOOOO!

kthulhu · Post by **kthulhu** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 12:31 am

What, no mention of Miao-chan from Tsukikage Ran?!

Best practitioner of a (cat themed) martial art EVAR!

Flint the Dwarf · Post by **Flint the Dwarf** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 12:32 am

Lol, EC... you rock. \m/ >_< \m/

I could've sworn you would just Dan have kick the crap out of everyone.

EarthCurrent · Post by **EarthCurrent** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 12:35 am

flint_the_dwarf wrote:Lol, EC... you rock. \m/ >_< \m/

I could've sworn you would just Dan have kick the crap out of everyone.

"Dan?" "Kick the Crap out of Everyone?"
HAHAHAHAHA

dwchang · Post by **dwchang** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 1:42 am

skanks wrote:its an interesting point you make, i'm sorry i don't mean to be argumentive, I guess thats just in my nature
I've never read the manga so that much you have, and i never knew Enshi had a defence against it?
(does that mean it involves large gun of sorts? or perhaps he sits in tank and glees evily from behind the armoned hull)

It makes sense when you read it...I'd explain, but it would spoil the fun of reading it

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El Banana · Post by **El Banana** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 2:19 am

dwchang wrote:
Top-tier (in order too )
-Hiko Seijiro
-Seta Soujirou
-Shishio Makoto
-Enishi
-Himura Kenshin
-Saitoh Hajime
-Aoshi Shinomori
-Fuji (I guess)

Second-tier
-Usui
-Anji
-Sano

Third-tier
-The rest of the Ten Swords (Hennya, Kamatari, etc.)
-Yahiko
-Kaoru
-Misao

I think this is pretty well-accepted throughout the show.

Y'know, I have to disagree in many of those.

*possible spoilers*

Hiko Seijuro... nah. He's the strongest. And coolest. And defeated something as close to an EVA as you're gonna get in Meiji Japan.

Now, you were talking about the characters being in their top condition. However, you also have to remember that "pre-burns" Shishio is not necessarily as strong as he was now. Remember that they said in the show and manga that Shishio's extreme body heat, even if it did limit him, also gave him an increased power, like a locomotive. The hotter he was, the more powerful he became. That explains how he crushed the ground like that. The heat that took his life also helped him, to a degree.

Now, as far as Enishi goes: yes, he did defeat the Ama Kakeru once, but that was because he saw the technique first. Besides, the first time they fought, Kenshin had still not found his answer. So he was nowhere close to full power. Once he did find his answer, he defeated enishi, even with the "Nerves of Insanity". His Ama Kakeru defeated Enishi's attack. So in the end, he proved to be stronger.

Then there's the whole dilemma of Kenshin not having a real sword. Kenshin pulled off his 5 hit combo on shishio, the Kuzu-Ryu-Sen AND the ougi, all of which would have killed him. And he also hit enishi with the kuzu-ryu-sen on the first fight (Though Enishi wasn't serious).

As far as soujiro goes, I have to admit I haven't read that part of the manga, and saw the episodes a looong time ago. I can't really put up a decent argument. Yet I'm pretty sure that if they were both at full strength (Non psycho Soujiro and Kenshin, with his "answer), kenshin would also have been victorious. Besides, enishi is the cooler psycho anyway.

Sheet I'm tired.

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Kracus · Post by **Kracus** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 7:41 am

dwchang wrote:
DJReno wrote: ...........

Yea but by the end of the show Sano mastered that tech and they never got to fight at the end with Saitoh or anyone else right, so noone knows who would win in a fight right?
I still think Saitoh would win. Given Sano would just have to hit once, but Saitoh is quite a bit better than Sano. I don't think that many people would disagree that Sano is a second rate fighter (he was even a third-rate at the beginning).

I'd say the breakdown would be:
Top-tier (in order too )
-Hiko Seijiro
-Seta Soujirou
-Shishio Makoto
-Enishi
-Himura Kenshin
-Saitoh Hajime
-Aoshi Shinomori
-Fuji (I guess)

Second-tier
-Usui
-Anji
-Sano

Third-tier
-The rest of the Ten Swords (Hennya, Kamatari, etc.)
-Yahiko
-Kaoru
-Misao

I think this is pretty well-accepted throughout the show.

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I agree with this. although I'd put Kaoru at the top of the third rate tier cause she still kicked around yahiko and she bested kamatari although it was with the help of misao. Although, I'll admist after Yahiko grows up he is stronger. I loved it when he put down Kenji (right?). Oh and Dwchang, what's your reasoning for putting Usui above Anji? I saw Usui as a pretty weak fighter because of his cheap tricks.

I also found it funny seeing Sano as the pick for best fighter, that just made me laugh. Specially since it was proven at the beginning of the series that he was no where near kenshin's level.

Super Cyber Akuma · Post by **Super Cyber Akuma** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 7:47 am

Akuma. . . He is the Supreme Master of the Fist

dwchang · Post by **dwchang** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 8:43 am

Kracus wrote: I agree with this. although I'd put Kaoru at the top of the third rate tier cause she still kicked around yahiko and she bested kamatari although it was with the help of misao. Although, I'll admist after Yahiko grows up he is stronger. I loved it when he put down Kenji (right?). Oh and Dwchang, what's your reasoning for putting Usui above Anji? I saw Usui as a pretty weak fighter because of his cheap tricks.

I also found it funny seeing Sano as the pick for best fighter, that just made me laugh. Specially since it was proven at the beginning of the series that he was no where near kenshin's level.

Actually, I was lazy and didn't remember I was naming in order...I'd just ignore what I said for the second and third-tier. Although when I look at it, like you said Yahiko becomes VERY strong at the end of the manga. As for Usui...well...Shishio did have him as his "2nd strongest" or whatever to Soujirou. Also Saitoh defeated him (who I think is stronger than Sano). However, it doesnt change the fact that he's lame.

BishounenStalker · Post by **BishounenStalker** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 12:59 pm

Oi, when it comes o anime, there are about as many fighting styles as there are sushi rolls.

Anywho, I'm selecting one each from a few choice categories.

Hand-to-Hand -- Sanji from One Piece. A guy who can Riverdance AND beat the crap outta people. That takes talent. (And no, I don't consider Ryu a hand-to-hand fighter. He's a cheap-ass who stands on the other end of the screen and Hadoukens you to death)

Weapon (sword) -- Yomiko from Read or Die, just for the fact that her sword was made out of rolled-up dollar bills.

Weapon (gun) -- Rally Vincent of Gunsmith Cats. No explanation needed.

Mech -- Tie between Shinji Ikari and Amuro Rei. Newtype or not, Eva 01 would kick a Gundam's tailrockets from here to next Tuesday (sorry, Heero, but that AT Field just takes the cake -_-;;) However, one can't deny that Amuro started the whole tradition of mech ass-kicking as we know it.

Psychic/Mind Powers -- M. Bison. Hands down.

Magic -- Lina Inverse. Two words: Dragon Slave.