Rurouni Kenshin & Trigun, One in the same?

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Post by dwchang » Tue Jul 29, 2003 4:04 pm

SSJVegita0609 wrote::P

We could fight about this one for ages and no one would win Chang. So I'm not gonna start.

BTW, I saw Trigun before I saw Kenshin, which may be part of the reason I like it more as well. HMMMMM.
Yes you are correct sir :).

Yeah, I have a theory about Trigun and Kenshin, in that the one you see first is the one you enjoy more. Obviously in seeing the other one second, you already have a bias and something to compare it with. So maybe that's what this is.

Too bad we can't go back in time and test this theory with ourselves :-P.
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Post by Heero_Yuy84 » Tue Jul 29, 2003 4:12 pm

dwchang wrote:
Shun wrote:ooo, could you link me to where to buy the manga? i just may do that :D
Uhm....link you? I just bought mine at the local Asian bookstore. Don't know the link to that :-P. Just search, you'll be able to find it..although it's all in Japanese, so might not be worth it.

You can find scans that are translated if you search hard enough. And no, I don't know links to those :).
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Post by Vazor » Tue Jul 29, 2003 5:05 pm

I saw Kenshin first, but I also prefer Trigun. Now if we were saying something like Kyoto saga vs Trigun, then I'd go with Kenshin, but the first and third season (third especially) are kind of weak and with those included, I really can't say that it's better than Trigun.
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Post by dwchang » Tue Jul 29, 2003 6:17 pm

Vazor wrote:I saw Kenshin first, but I also prefer Trigun. Now if we were saying something like Kyoto saga vs Trigun, then I'd go with Kenshin, but the first and third season (third especially) are kind of weak and with those included, I really can't say that it's better than Trigun.
Well y'see I don't include the third season and about half of the first season since it was not part of the manga. At least when I talk about Kenshin, I am talking about the TV episodes that were true to the manga and not random filler.

If you included those, yeah I'd have to agree since the third season was god-awful. I'm a huge Kenshin fan and still hate them...and with good reason...Sony made them without any consent from the creator and the manga went a totally different direction (i.e. good).
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Post by Shun » Tue Jul 29, 2003 7:10 pm

Actually i saw trigun before kenshin and enjoyed kenshin more, maye im an odd ball :shock:

But honesly the first half of trigun wasnt even worth watching, around episode nine when we meet wolfwood there wasnt even one touch into the actually story line, and not tell halfway thru the anime did we even SEE Rem. The gungho guns could DEFFINITLY of had somewhat of a story behind each of them instead of just being a group of fighters or "demons".

Dont get me wrong i love trigun, even tho it would of been a hell of a lot better had they waited for the manga to finish before trying to start the anime.

Still i feel kenshin was much more in depth with a larger story line and something you could really get into. I meen in the first 3 episodes you learn that he is the batousai and you meet sano.

I dunno i just thought it had a better flow and because it was partly based on actual japanese history gave it even more of a nice touch.

PS. The episode of Trigun with the title "papardise" should get shot in its face. Ive heard rumors that the "big incident" didnt even happen in the manga or possibly not until a later time. I feal they could of left a lot larger impression if they had only waited...

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Post by #1 » Sat Aug 09, 2003 1:00 am

I feel that Trigun was much better than Kenshin... The Gung Ho Guns were not there to play main roles but the group together played its part. Trigun seemed to be more in depth with its themes. Vash definatly was more devoted than Kenshin, and as far as battles go... Kenshin was more in depth. I belive many people are biased towards Kenshin because it had far more episodes and that provided for more charecter development, if Trigun had 95something episodes im sure the Gung Ho Guns would be much more detailed and interesting. Also Trigun didnt flat out tell you what was going on... much of the charecter information had to be infered from the way they acted. Like you could tell Cain the Sniper cared more for his pride than his life. Its really not hard to have a good charecter development with only a few scenes and i think Trigun did this well.

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Post by Shun » Sat Aug 09, 2003 1:49 am

#1 wrote:I feel that Trigun was much better than Kenshin... The Gung Ho Guns were not there to play main roles but the group together played its part. Trigun seemed to be more in depth with its themes. Vash definatly was more devoted than Kenshin, and as far as battles go... Kenshin was more in depth. I belive many people are biased towards Kenshin because it had far more episodes and that provided for more charecter development, if Trigun had 95something episodes im sure the Gung Ho Guns would be much more detailed and interesting. Also Trigun didnt flat out tell you what was going on... much of the charecter information had to be infered from the way they acted. Like you could tell Cain the Sniper cared more for his pride than his life. Its really not hard to have a good charecter development with only a few scenes and i think Trigun did this well.
First off, nice Necro Post :)

From here on out expect spoilers to Trigun and possibly Kenshin.

"Vash was more devoted then Kenshin"

If you meen in the oath not to kill u are wrong, Vash slipped with legato.

"Cain the Sniper cared more for his pride than his life"

If you meen by killing himself when vash found him then i disagree, i feal that cain shot himself because as a gunho gun he would be killed for failing and would have a much more painfull death then a simple bullet to the head(as demonstrated in a later ep)

Biased? I doubt it, Trigun should of been more eps but it didnt follow the manga, Eva is the same amount of eps and is arguabley the best anime.

And i fealt it was more "You should of told me quite a bit more" before i could come to the conclusion of "I can fill in the rest".

Again this is just IMHO, I wish this wasnt necroposted :*(

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Post by GoldenGundam » Sat Aug 09, 2003 8:20 pm

Also, Vash has like one of the biggest cases of "hedgehog's delema" that I've ever seen. :cry:
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Post by GMD_God » Sun Aug 10, 2003 9:33 pm

I agree with MAS.

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Post by Kracus » Mon Aug 11, 2003 2:51 pm

Shun wrote: First off, nice Necro Post :)

From here on out expect spoilers to Trigun and possibly Kenshin.

"Vash was more devoted then Kenshin"

If you meen in the oath not to kill u are wrong, Vash slipped with legato.
Sorry to "necro" post

But I just wanted to comment on this point cause it was mentioned before and since someone already posted in this yesterday and today I'm gonna go ahead and spew my words =).

anyway, I disagree with that, Vash slipped with Legato and Kenshin slipped with Cho. In kenshin's mind, he killed Cho. It wasn't until Lori's father told him to look at the blade that he realized it was reversed. Also, (going onto the limb) Kenshin could have just used the hilt and not the blade, Vash didn't have a choice - his friends were going to die. Kenshin at that point was the weaker minded one because it wasn't Kenshin it was the Hotokiri that was still manifesting in him when he loses control. (but still one of my favorite moment in the kyoto arc)

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