Evangelion: Classic or Overrated?

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Post by tomj » Mon Apr 07, 2003 5:33 am

Propyro wrote:
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AtomicWeezleman wrote:dwchang, its the bit in episode 23, where rei blows herself to smitherenes, a total head f@ck for shinji though, little rei's in the hand, everyone should have one or two of those..... :lol: also this scene links in with the eoe more as to the part of reiangel trying to link with shinji..or thats what i got from it anyway


wait a second ... didn't they recover her entry plug? i don't know i only saw it once and i didn't quite get what had just happened at the time ...
Oh, they found her plug all right - but yes, she *had* gone up in flames.
well that sucks. I need to watch the series a few more times to understand. By the way would you mind explaining your emphasis on *had*?
Erm... locating the plug doesn't mean she made it out alive. As far as we're led to believe.

(It's a tone of voice thing, that emphasis.)
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Post by dwchang » Mon Apr 07, 2003 10:17 am

tomj wrote:
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wait a second ... didn't they recover her entry plug? i don't know i only saw it once and i didn't quite get what had just happened at the time ...
Oh, they found her plug all right - but yes, she *had* gone up in flames.
well that sucks. I need to watch the series a few more times to understand. By the way would you mind explaining your emphasis on *had*?
Erm... locating the plug doesn't mean she made it out alive. As far as we're led to believe.

(It's a tone of voice thing, that emphasis.)[/quote]

I'm curious as to why there is still confusion here. Rei II died in that explosion and then they create Rei III.
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Post by tomj » Mon Apr 07, 2003 11:33 am

dwchang wrote:
I'm curious as to why there is still confusion here. Rei II died in that explosion and then they create Rei III.
Well, we think she's the third, she thinks she's the third... but whether she is the third is a different matter entirely.

This is why Eva is such fun. ^_^
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Post by dwchang » Mon Apr 07, 2003 1:29 pm

tomj wrote:
dwchang wrote:
I'm curious as to why there is still confusion here. Rei II died in that explosion and then they create Rei III.
Well, we think she's the third, she thinks she's the third... but whether she is the third is a different matter entirely.

This is why Eva is such fun. ^_^
Argh!...(hides in a corner until you all give this argument which (IMO) isn't much of an argument) :-P
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Post by Metro » Mon Apr 07, 2003 2:06 pm

dwchang wrote:
Metro wrote: But is Fuyutsuki her style?
Clue: it is an alternate reality where Shinji doesn't exsist. So who would Asuka go after if there was no Shinji?
Well like I originally said..Kaji...but since that's wrong my guess is Toji since there are only like 2 other boys that are her age in the show. If not a boy, I'd hate to say this, but Hikari...once again the argument being they're similar in age.

Aww you got it. It was Toji.

The scene starts out with Asuka waking up and realizing that she had slept with Toji. She then goes to the bathroom where she discovers a "reminder" of the night before in her mouth

now you know ^_^

As for the deleted scenes...
They are not deleted scenes. At the same time Gainax was producing Death, they were also making extra scenes for episodes 21 - 24. The scenes that were finished during the production of Death were added to the film. I have heard that the reason that the extra scenes were not in the US release is because Gainax wanted to sell the license to the extra scenes along with Death & Rebirth. ADV couldn't buy both the series and the movies so they decided to produce the dvds as they were seen during their initial release.
tomj wrote:Well, we think she's the third, she thinks she's the third... but whether she is the third is a different matter entirely.

This is why Eva is such fun. ^_^
Some evidence to support the three Reis

1. She says she is the third :D
2. There is a scene in the series where it shows all three Reis (I believe during her contemplation in ep 25)
3. When Ritsuko destroys the Rei clones, her remote control shows three Reis missing.

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Post by AtomicWeezleman » Mon Apr 07, 2003 5:00 pm

tomj wrote:Well, we think she's the third, she thinks she's the third... but whether she is the third is a different matter entirely.

This is why Eva is such fun. ^_^
Some evidence to support the three Reis

1. She says she is the third :D
2. There is a scene in the series where it shows all three Reis (I believe during her contemplation in ep 25)
3. When Ritsuko destroys the Rei clones, her remote control shows three Reis missing.[/quote]

damn you, i was about to say that onest, but this argument is still pointless as it just goes round in circles O, anyone know where i can get the kwarou and seelee deleted scene???
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Post by dwchang » Mon Apr 07, 2003 5:44 pm

AtomicWeezleman wrote:O, anyone know where i can get the kwarou and seelee deleted scene???
Japanese LDs? (ducks) :-P

Soon to be released Japanese DVDs - Evangelion Renewal which will probalby cost $500.00 (ducks again)

I'd maybe search on kazaa or something (shrug). I've only seen them since my friend did a sub of it way back when with all the deleted scenes in the correct places. It was cool :).
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Post by the Black Monarch » Mon Apr 07, 2003 6:53 pm

Before I posted, I was going to read through every message that had been posted since I was last here, but this one bit grabbed my attention:
AtomicWeezleman wrote:just used my newly aquired deleted scenes in my new video, Lit Over my head
NOOOOOOOOOOO! That was my idea, bitch! Thou shalt not use my idea! MINE!
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Post by the Black Monarch » Mon Apr 07, 2003 7:17 pm

AtomicWeezleman wrote: the rumoured prequel to evangelion ive heard is to be called Nerv H.Q
AWESOME!
AtomicWeezleman wrote:Which ending do you prefer, is it episodes 25 & 26, or do you prefer EOE, i myself prefer the original ending, as it ended the series nicely
If forced to choose between the two, I'd say the movie, because it happens in the real world and makes a lot of things much more clear.
If I want to go on a nonsensical acid trip through someone's head without knowing what's happening in reality, I'll find a mushroom, thank you very much.
However, the movie is not without complaints from me, and I think an ending like that of Episode 24 would have been more suitable.
Savia wrote:Personally, I'm episode 24 is my favorite
Mine too.
dwchang wrote:Well from what I have *heard*, Episodes 25 and 26 are Anno's true ending and afterwards there was a HUGE backlash from the fans since they disliked his character driven (no "what happened") ending (the part of the fans hating it, is true). However, at the same time, it's been debated that the reason it's so "f'ed up" is b/c Anno was angry at the fans rejecting his "true" ending. I've heard people say Asuka saying "Kimochi wa Warui" (I feel sicked/disgusted) is really Anno talking to the audience since he was somewhat forced by the fans to make a movie he didn't want to. Either way, it's what I heard.
I've heard the same thing. I also heard was that Anno had originally wanted to do something like the movie, but time and money wouldn't let him, so he jumped at the chance to make the ending he'd wanted to make. I've yet to hear from Anno himself on what the real story is.
tomj wrote:Well, we think she's the third, she thinks she's the third... but whether she is the third is a different matter entirely.
You took the words right out of my mouth!
Metro wrote: Aww you got it. It was Toji.
Hey, I gave the same answer on my first try and with a more definitive tone! He was just guessing!
Metro wrote: 1. She says she is the third :D
2. There is a scene in the series where it shows all three Reis (I believe during her contemplation in ep 25)
3. When Ritsuko destroys the Rei clones, her remote control shows three Reis missing.
1. She says she THINKS she "must be" the third one because she doesn't remember what happened to her. But after an explosion like that, you'd be likely to have memory loss too.
2. That's in the movie, after she picks up Gendo's glasses. But why do they all appear to be holding glasses (at least that's how it looks to me) if there's only one pair to pick up?
3. And conveniently, there are also three Evas with dummy plugs. Hmmm...
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Post by tomj » Tue Apr 08, 2003 5:01 am

dwchang wrote:
AtomicWeezleman wrote:O, anyone know where i can get the kwarou and seelee deleted scene???
Japanese LDs? (ducks) :-P

Soon to be released Japanese DVDs - Evangelion Renewal which will probalby cost $500.00 (ducks again)
Actually, JPY40,000, so probably $400 or so, with GBP being approx 250.

Preorders are not my credit card's friends. ^_^
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