Hiei or Vegeta

Cloud Clone · Post by **Cloud Clone** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 6:10 pm

Karou_ken wrote: no vote for Hiei.

Whaddaya mean? That's 2 for Hiei and one for Vegeta...and it's all opinion, so don't worry 'bout it ok?

Karou_ken · Post by **Karou_ken** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 6:11 pm

Cloud Clone wrote:
Karou_ken wrote: no vote for Hiei.
Whaddaya mean? That's 2 for Hiei and one for Vegeta...and it's all opinion, so don't worry 'bout it ok?

ok 8)

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:49 pm

Bebop0083 wrote:let the madness end!!

...this thread has been going on for two weeks so far can we at least get to a conclusion!!

But...but don't you see?!

The only logical conclusion is that there *can* be no true conclusion. So far we've ruled out a lot of variations on ways in which one character or the other might win. That's the idea - every time someone comes up with a way Vegeta can win, I do my darndest to disprove either the strength difference, or the likelihood of him doing it in the first place. The goal? To show that the match up is one where there can be no conclusion.

The madness shall not end until all agree that it is a madness to which there is no end. Until that happens, let's all run around in circles yipping at each other.

It's ever so much fun. ^_^

Bebop0083 · Post by **Bebop0083** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 8:06 pm

ah but what about my Vegeta whop ass theory in my above post?? see if Vegeta fights hes gonna get his ass handed to him. its been proven in every saga from Saiyan to Kid Buu. and even the movies.

Karou_ken · Post by **Karou_ken** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 8:13 pm

um....Hiei would win.

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 8:15 pm

Bebop0083 wrote:ah but what about my Vegeta whop ass theory in my above post?? see if Vegeta fights hes gonna get his ass handed to him. its been proven in every saga from Saiyan to Kid Buu. and even the movies.

Ah, but you know *why* he was beaten in all of those instances - so a Son could get the bad guy instead, usually Goku. Vegeta never gets beaten when there isn't a Son to step up and take the glory instead (unless he's going to come back and kick the guy's butt later - Zarbon? ).

^.~

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 8:17 pm

And I forgot my point. ~_~;;

Vegeta wouldn't automatically lose because in a match with Hiei, there wouldn't be a Son waiting around to take the glory - it would be just the two of them. I can't remember that ever happening in DBZ and Vegeta losing even though a Son wasn't there to take up where he left off.

Bebop0083 · Post by **Bebop0083** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 8:18 pm

poor Vegeta only a few glory moments. Zarbon like you mentioned and Android 19. so maybe we can go with your Son not there theory and he may just have a tiny bit of chance. maybe if he was in SSJ4 mode or some thing unless Hiei's Majin form could stand up to that?

Cloud Clone · Post by **Cloud Clone** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 8:19 pm

Bebop0083 wrote:ah but what about my Vegeta whop ass theory in my above post?? see if Vegeta fights hes gonna get his ass handed to him. its been proven in every saga from Saiyan to Kid Buu. and even the movies.

Well that's true, but I think that's just a plot device to make Goku, who is of course the main character, seem even stronger by comparing the differences in their power. Just my thoughts, though.

Karou_ken · Post by **Karou_ken** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 8:20 pm