Its wrong, WTF is wrong with Japan!

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Post by Dannywilson » Sat Mar 15, 2003 5:40 pm

"WAAAAAAHHHH!!!! NARUSEGAWA!!!"

*Accidentally gropes breast*

*Gets kicked through wall and over horizon, as "the hell that is my life" plays in the backround*

But anyways, what if the computer were self aware, and raised from birth as a human, in a humanoid body, not knowing that it was an android? Would you be able to tell?
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Post by OmniStrata » Mon Mar 17, 2003 12:58 am

The Non-Professional wrote:Go hump your toaster and share sweet memories with it.*
That depends, how sexy is your toaster?

Does it have a big bra size and nice hips along with a very tight slot? :lol:

What you speak of REALLY cracks me up ^_^
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Post by kthulhu » Mon Mar 17, 2003 2:51 am

Dannywilson wrote:But anyways, what if the computer were self aware, and raised from birth as a human, in a humanoid body, not knowing that it was an android? Would you be able to tell?
Depends on the quality of the mechanics inside. For that matter, since it would be a robot, it would be self-aware from "birth", in an adult physical state. Would it have memories of a childhood? Would it have any information that wasn't input into it before it was switched on? We are human, partly because we become the result, the sum, of our experiences and free will.

If I did know it was a robot (and one would probably find out), I would not love it. Perhaps because of some deep down, subliminal, primal idea that it would not suffice to pass on my genes, but perhaps, too, on an emotional level, I would find it hard to connect in any meaningful way with what is essentially a wrapped package of circuit boards and code.

Humans both desire and hate the unpredictability of other humans. Not just personality, but the physical aspects too. We evolved in a chaotic, random world, which we still live in. A stable creature like a robot is probably something we cannot handle emotionally.
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Post by CaTaClYsM » Mon Mar 17, 2003 2:59 am

actually that is debatable, there is suck a thing as a mechanical neural network. it could very well have a mechanical brain that acts exactly like a humans.
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab

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Post by Corran » Mon Mar 17, 2003 3:02 am

I can't say I would fall in love with such a form without actually meeting something truely real but if it has feelings I wouldn't disregard it either...

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Post by kthulhu » Mon Mar 17, 2003 3:15 am

Corran Productions wrote:I can't say I would fall in love with such a form without actually meeting something truely real but if it has feelings I wouldn't disregard it either...
One could say it depends on how valuable a human is compared to a robot. A human, much like a rose, takes time to grow and flower, mentally and physically. And much like a rose, we value humans all the more because of this (well, ideally, at least :lol: ). This is why so many humans are averse to killing - to be base, it's like shattering a priceless vase when you kill someone. It's irreplaceable. Not even a clone could totally replace a dead person.

A robot, on the other hand....

When you can make one in a few hours, an exact copy, and even merge the data from the old one into a new one, there isn't the same sense of treasuring, of value. It's the difference between a Ming vase, and your average cafeteria dishes.
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Post by CaTaClYsM » Mon Mar 17, 2003 3:24 am

the mechanica brain will act exactly like the real one. there will be NO visible difference in the way the person acts. With a few exceptions.

It will never grow mental old, and it's braincells woill never die. It would be super intelligent. So by that right there would be no way to tell the difference unless you cracked it's head open or gave it an IQ test.
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab

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Post by Wufei » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:30 pm

i don't think it's the body that matters so much as the soul and mind. so if the brain and all that went with it were to be transferred to a mechanical shell, well, i guess i'd have to deal with it. if your love is true how could you lose it just because the outside is different. a good example is something i heard about a man who was in a fire. so horribly scared that he really was like a monster. he had to attach a fake face so as not to scare his children because the burns on his face were so bad. and yet his wife stays by his side. if that's not true love i don't think i know a better example. Sayonara.
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Post by skanks » Tue Mar 18, 2003 11:18 pm

I don't think I have much of a say who I fall love with, it kinda just happens.
If it was a machine it would prove my mother right, She always said I was in love with a computer. Go the Chi complex!
I think humans just imitate love personally, if we others didn’t tell us what to think we would run around humping hairy bitches we knocked out with a rather large stick.

Having seen Chobits and Hand Maid May, yer, in that situation I wouldn’t worry about their morals of falling in love with a artificial life form. Robots and computers are still the son’s and daughters of man. We are no longer born of god, but born of man. Hand Maid May he didn’t fall in love with May, actually, from what I gathered he was going to get some from the girl next door being that he had a son. Chii on the other hand was raised as a daughter, she had parents and was inbuilt the same data that would make a human girl.. well what you would deem human. However, the data was wiped. (Amnesia anyone?)
Although I’m not one to run out and have sexual intercourse with electric goods because of the convience, I’m will never denie my heart. If my feelings were true, I would stick by them, and love my toaster should my toaster return my feelings.
But, I’m the sort of person that loves someone for who they are, so we are talking about a pretty bloody charming toaster here.
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Post by Wufei » Thu Mar 20, 2003 8:22 pm

bravo. that's all that i need to say. Sayonara.
Fighting weak oponents leaves me feeling so empty inside.

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