newbie searching [for] help with amv's

Sporkmaster · Post by **Sporkmaster** » Thu Jul 31, 2003 7:54 pm

I think that is the reason that for having different thoughts about it. I have not attempted to use its other features and I have 18 gigs free at the moment as well. But as for cutting the clips I also put used the AVI format where a half second clips is three Megs. So you do not have any other program that can assemble these clips besides WMM?

genestarwind21122 · Post by **genestarwind21122** » Thu Jul 31, 2003 7:56 pm

Okay this what I use and for the most part I would say I'm making desent videos right now. If you have $40 go to best buys and buy yourself MGI video wave 4. This progam has effects where you can create ripples, black and white scenes and add in background and much more. It gives you a capture device that you plug into your USB port and then you can use a dvd player, vcr or ps2 to use to capture your images. It is pretty easy to use. Then once you produce the video you open up a new file and take the produced video and drag it up to the production strip then you go to add sound and drag over the audio you want. It will explain it in more detail. But yeah it is pretty easy to use and it isn't expense and you can create good videos with it.

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Thu Jul 31, 2003 8:25 pm

Sporkmaster wrote:I think that is the reason that for having different thoughts about it. I have not attempted to use its other features and I have 18 gigs free at the moment as well. But as for cutting the clips I also put used the AVI format where a half second clips is three Megs. So you do not have any other program that can assemble these clips besides WMM?

Well, I've had problems with codecs in general (using VirtualDub), but if I don't want to use the two wmm method, I can import the clips into Showbiz. The only problem is that Showbiz highly inflates the size of mpg files. And an avi file created by Showbiz cannot be converted to mpg using normal methods. I use Showbiz as a last resort (since there's a limit to the number of avi clips you can use - 72, if I remember correctly). You *can* produce a long complicated timeline in wmm 2.0 as a very big avi file - but the clip speed will be very askew - if you import that into Showbiz you have to edit the clips to get the timing back in place, and the preview in that movie maker is nasty so you get a lot of extra frames popping up all over the place - and then the output size of the mpg file is far too large. And any wmv file you make (depending on the codecs used) will have the same lines you got from wmm when using wmv. The real problem is the codecs you use to compress your original clips - if you use a very old windows codec wmm loves it and it'll produce without much problem. ^_^ But that codec is not compatible with any mpg converter I've found, and the compression quality is horrible. Hufyuv gives some nice output, but you have to cut the clips into 15 sec sections instead of 35-40, and the footage blurs badly once you convert to mpg.

But none of this really matters. ^_^ You shouldn't use windows movie maker to begin wth - that's what premier is for. ^_^;; Call me archaic, but between the special effects in Showbiz, and the ones in wmm 2.0, you can do anything other movie makers allow (except good overlays), so other than the trouble with production, I don't mind working with what came on my computer.