Censorship

[NME]

If you have any faith in a leader who charges you 10 dollars a year to edit your posts and to post on this craphole of a phpBB you deserve a leader as fucking shitty as Phade. We are all the problem until we all speak up and demand a better community.

That's basically it. Most of you are too conformist to be able to even care about this problem though, as many of you straight up lack the mental ability to think along divergent lines. I know this is pretty much the problem with society at large and its inability to adopt new ideas - too many conformist brains. You'll pay your fee to someone who did nothing but get some hosting together and cobble a broken shit database system together. You'll grin your shit-eating grin because 10 dollars is nothing to you. You'll feel content, fat and happy in the first world that you have expendable income to give to someone who is too greedy to do something like this out of love and his own pocketbook. The fact is Phade started charging for access to fan created videos. This is wrong. As far as I'm concerned he doesn't deserve to run a community he has stolen from under the guise of paying for hosting. Bandwidth is cheap as fuck and Phade is a comfortably middle class man. He has a kid. Greed.

This is what happens when you put dollar signs on art. Isn't it fitting that the best AMVs are coming from places that allow and encourage actual artistic expression these days? Russian AMV scene has only grown while ours has died.

This is purely due to policy decisions.

Also, LMFAO @ all the people who think talking about illegal things is illegal and needs to be censored. This is fear dictating policy again. There is no such thing as free speech anyway when you get down to brass tacks, but that's the meatspace world. This is the internet, the only thing that can hurt you here is yourself and your own perception of the words of another. Blocking off the ugly parts of anything instead of dealing with them openly is moronic. There is no reason to attempt to control our behaviour in this way, it does not make an inviting community.

The people who run this site and the IRC channel are afraid, they should be because they are confused; we all are on some level. We've got to be open and communicate with each other if we want this confusion to lessen though. You're not going to make people less confused by locking expression down though. Ya'll monkeys is brainwashed and it hurts me to see this shit get spewed out from your fingers like it's more meaningful than the sad childish charade it actually is. Fuckin' infantile thought process of the administrator is strangling innovation and the amount of cooks (not chefs, mind you) in the IRC are spoiling the broth.

It's sad to see all the banners made trying to get people to join this site - all that hard work and skill is basically for naught because the community cares, but the admin doesn't give a fuck and we're all suffering and getting a sub-par community because of it.

TL;DR - Phade is a moron with no leadership ability who has installed puppet after puppet to run this site, his puppets have been failures because they've been very little but yes men and pederasts who openly broke rules (big up cross da pond sex drugs n rock n roll massiv!)

If you want a better community it's time to stand up and shout that THIS MUST END.

[godix]

Power to the people!

But lord, does it have to be THESE people?





WOOHOO! EDITED! THE PEOPLE WIN!

[Otohiko]

Wait, so let me get this straight. This is a thread about censorship, but the actual complaint is about the inability to censor yourself? Wat?
By the way, I support the idea of editing buttons being available to everyone - or more accurately, I'm ambivalent to it. I honestly don't think there's been any serious precedent lately that would justify a strong position on them in either direction.

As far as the IRC and drugs - how many discussions have we had about those? Honestly, I think as long as you stop short of "hey go try this buddy", it's fine. Just don't be telling people who are not of legal age the what/how or otherwise encouraging them. Legal or not (and yes, sure, I can see how ops/mods would use that as an argument, even if it's not the crux of the issue), it's just not ethical or in any sense cool to be telling minors to do weed or anyone where/how to go find some on a public discussion forum. In that sense, alcohol is much on the same level and honestly, all things considered, I fail to see how 'light' drugs are treated differently in IRC discussions than alcohol or tobacco. We've probably had more (rational) discussions of the former than the latter. So don't get into victim mentality here - yeah, some people do throw a pissy fit over it, but I wouldn't count the ops and administration among them, as long as it's kept at a rational level. For all it's worth, it's not #drugs, and we'd like to at least keep any mention of it a diversion rather than a topic of contention.

[AaronAMV]

tl;dr

f*ck all of y'all

[kenisama]

Wait, so let me get this straight. This is a thread about censorship, but the actual complaint is about the inability to censor yourself? Wat?

LMAO, loved this!

BTW... welcome to teh interwebz everyone all your arguments are now invalidz

[8bit_samurai]

fuckin fire fuck, internet arguments are pretty damn retarded, especially if it's about internet censorship. Comparing internet communities with each other is pretty damn retarded too, since they're pretty much irrelevant to each other, but I'm gonna do it anyways, since I'm already taking part of an "internet debate." I've seen forums that allows unregistered users make posts, I've seen where you need to be a registered user in order to view certain posts and communities where you need a certain number of posts to view stuff. I've seen communities where you can only choose certain avatars, and communities that redirect you to faqs/rules if you make a certain posts. That's pretty much all the communities I've seen since I've never really explored that much, but out of all those communities, this one is pretty relaxed compared to the larger communities I've seen. Would it be alright to compare this to the larger ones? Looking back when I first joined, this seemed to be quite a big community; however, it doesn't seem as large now than it used to be. And if you ask me why, I would probably say it's the lack of censorship. Have you ever heard of don't bite the hand that feeds you? I'm pretty sure there is a reason why they say that. Of course, the hands that feed us seem to be quite forgiving. If anything, we should be thankful for that, and should be thankful for how relaxed this community is, and also be thankful the administration/moderation is doing this for free and on their own time. If you think otherwise, well then, good for you. I disapprove of what you have to say, but I, I myself, won't defend to the death your right to say it, but maybe somebody else will.

[Jadecavy]

it's just not ethical or in any sense cool to be telling miners to do weed or anyone where/how to go find some on a public discussion forum.

Hey. I think that after inhaling all the mining dust that miners have the right to discuss/do weed.

[Zarxrax]

Blasdjasdsadkjasd~!

[Zarxrax]

WTF! There is no preview button!

How can I prevent myself from making embarrassing mistakes without this feature?!!!

[dreamawake]

It's obvious that this is a problem to me considering the amount of threads created for it in site suggestions, and it's the biggest complain about the forum's functionality that I hear about. I hear about it a lot, too. It used to bug me big time when I couldn't edit my posts, being a donor now, this no longer applies to me anyway. I still feel it is an issue that needs to be talked about, though. Then again, why bother? In fact, let's just completely scrap the redesign forum too while we're at it. Why improve what people are bitching about? I'll have to get off my ass sometime and make a new banner for this place. "a-m-v.org - The Fake Sound Of Progress."