Otakon 2004 AMV Contest Finalists

[aluminumstudios]

If anyone has any concerns about anything go ahead and email the programming head with those. I know a number of people were unhappy with a number of things that happened involving the contest, and a few were my fault (like the Finalist announcment screwup was me in a hurry to get it out, so I missed a name).
What it comes down to is you guys ARE the contest, and it really is for you guys. The contest is also a major event now, up there with the cosplay and the concert (it draws members). So if you have something to say, then please do.

It seems that you really did a lot to help and hold the contest together. I appreciate that (as I'm sure all of the other AMV creators do too.)

Unfortunatly I couldn't make it to the feedback session, but as a long time regular of Otakon's contest (this is my 5th consecutive year) and with Otakon being my favorite con I'm not thrilled with the way the AMV contest was handled in it's first year without Matt Pyson (the contest was perfect every year he was at the helm.) I think I will take your suggestion of contactin the programming coordinator and providing some feedback.

Thanks.

[Vulkurt]

Did anyone see a video using Cat Soup in the overflow tapes? If so, do they know who created it?

Nope, sorry. At the prescreenings, the title cards for the videos didn't have who created them on them.

I know that the prescreening forms did not have the creators listed (the prescreenings were blind), but the creators' names were on the overflow tapes at the con. My question was, did anyone see this video on the overflow tapes at the con, because the name of the creator would have been before/after the video then.

Cat soup.... hmmm... was that the one where is had this woman get choped apart, fly around the room, then put back together by the wizard guy? If so, that video got cut from the overflows for being too gory.

If that was the case, then I understand why the tape was not on your list. However, that does not help me with finding the video, which I thought was excellent. Could you please let us know who the creator was?

[Scintilla]

Did anyone see a video using Cat Soup in the overflow tapes? If so, do they know who created it?

Nope, sorry. At the prescreenings, the title cards for the videos didn't have who created them on them.

I know that the prescreening forms did not have the creators listed (the prescreenings were blind), but the creators' names were on the overflow tapes at the con. My question was, did anyone see this video on the overflow tapes at the con, because the name of the creator would have been before/after the video then.

Argh, sorry, I'm a moron...

[hackerzc]

Cat soup.... hmmm... was that the one where is had this woman get choped apart, fly around the room, then put back together by the wizard guy? If so, that video got cut from the overflows for being too gory.

I was very upset that the video wasn't shown in some capacity at Otakon. It made a very strong impression on me at the prescreenings. I thought the video was very well made and suited the music very well. The woman chopped in half was very disturbing, but objectively I don't think the violence was any more graphic than, say, the X video that did get shown in the contest.

I remember Geoff proclaiming that there was no way the video would be shown in any form at the contest. I feel very strongly (and indicated on my prescreening ballot) that something of that quality deserved to be shown somehow, even if at a separate screening late at night. That would have held Geoff more accountable because a lot more people could have seen the video and judged for themselves if it was too extreme or not.

Can you at least publish the name of the creator?

I couldn't find the video by it's series in the list of submissions. Is there a Japanese name for Cat Soup or something that may have been used?
Or if you could remember the music or title of the video that might help.

If anyone has any concerns about anything go ahead and email the programming head with those. I know a number of people were unhappy with a number of things that happened involving the contest, and a few were my fault (like the Finalist announcment screwup was me in a hurry to get it out, so I missed a name).
What it comes down to is you guys ARE the contest, and it really is for you guys. The contest is also a major event now, up there with the cosplay and the concert (it draws members). So if you have something to say, then please do.

It seems that you really did a lot to help and hold the contest together. I appreciate that (as I'm sure all of the other AMV creators do too.)

Unfortunatly I couldn't make it to the feedback session, but as a long time regular of Otakon's contest (this is my 5th consecutive year) and with Otakon being my favorite con I'm not thrilled with the way the AMV contest was handled in it's first year without Matt Pyson (the contest was perfect every year he was at the helm.) I think I will take your suggestion of contactin the programming coordinator and providing some feedback.

Thanks.

Well personally I want the contest to be as close to how Matt left it as possible because like you said, things worked well.
Without going to into detail about what all went on (because I just don't want to piss anyone off by saying something they might not like.... i.e.: the truth) but the main issue that caused problems was the lack of communication with Geoff.
Patrick was actually quite easy to get a hold of considering what all he had going on like dealing with other contests and what not (Thank Patrick, because without him the contest really would not have happened).

I actually got disgusted a few times with how things were being handled by Geoff.
With that said, I was responsible for my own screw ups (the finalist posting missing a name, and a spelling error during the prescreenings) so what ever Geoff did wrong I can't totally condemn him since I made my own mistakes along the way (regardless of how insignificant they may seem to some).

So yes, please let your opinions be known. If I did anything wrong let me know too. I have no problem with admitting when I am wrong or I messed something up.
Assuming I am involved in the contest at all come next year, I want to do whatever I can to fix whatever issues arose this year.

Also if anyone has any specific questions about specific things relating to the contest (concerns, thought, etc) go ahead and post it, or email me or something. I like to keep all you guys informed about the workings of the contest as much as possible, since you all ARE the contest.

[MousePotato]

"Cat soup.... hmmm... was that the one where is had this woman get choped apart, fly around the room, then put back together by the wizard guy? If so, that video got cut from the overflows for being too gory."





There goes my Berserk idea...

[Scintilla]

Cat soup.... hmmm... was that the one where is had this woman get choped apart, fly around the room, then put back together by the wizard guy? If so, that video got cut from the overflows for being too gory.

I was very upset that the video wasn't shown in some capacity at Otakon. It made a very strong impression on me at the prescreenings. I thought the video was very well made and suited the music very well. The woman chopped in half was very disturbing, but objectively I don't think the violence was any more graphic than, say, the X video that did get shown in the contest.

I remember Geoff proclaiming that there was no way the video would be shown in any form at the contest. I feel very strongly (and indicated on my prescreening ballot) that something of that quality deserved to be shown somehow, even if at a separate screening late at night. That would have held Geoff more accountable because a lot more people could have seen the video and judged for themselves if it was too extreme or not.

Can you at least publish the name of the creator?

I couldn't find the video by it's series in the list of submissions. Is there a Japanese name for Cat Soup or something that may have been used?

I think it was called "Nekojiru-sou" or something similar at the prescreenings...

Also if anyone has any specific questions about specific things relating to the contest (concerns, thought, etc) go ahead and post it, or email me or something.

Um... who was responsible for misspelling the word "Category" both at the prescreenings AND at the con, out of curiosity?

[MousePotato]

My huge Ginormous Mega Ultra problem is that there wasn't a huge "awards ceremony" like last year.

WHERE'S THE LOVE!!!

[MousePotato]

Sorry for the double post but even though the number of votes this year doubled, It's still a very small number compared to the amount of people who saw the contest. Having a awards ceremony shows people that their votes contributed to somthing important to the con




Sorry if this has already been adressed

[hackerzc]

Cat soup.... hmmm... was that the one where is had this woman get choped apart, fly around the room, then put back together by the wizard guy? If so, that video got cut from the overflows for being too gory.

I was very upset that the video wasn't shown in some capacity at Otakon. It made a very strong impression on me at the prescreenings. I thought the video was very well made and suited the music very well. The woman chopped in half was very disturbing, but objectively I don't think the violence was any more graphic than, say, the X video that did get shown in the contest.

I remember Geoff proclaiming that there was no way the video would be shown in any form at the contest. I feel very strongly (and indicated on my prescreening ballot) that something of that quality deserved to be shown somehow, even if at a separate screening late at night. That would have held Geoff more accountable because a lot more people could have seen the video and judged for themselves if it was too extreme or not.

Can you at least publish the name of the creator?

I couldn't find the video by it's series in the list of submissions. Is there a Japanese name for Cat Soup or something that may have been used?

I think it was called "Nekojiru-sou" or something similar at the prescreenings...

Also if anyone has any specific questions about specific things relating to the contest (concerns, thought, etc) go ahead and post it, or email me or something.

Um... who was responsible for misspelling the word "Category" both at the prescreenings AND at the con, out of curiosity?

Ok I found it, "The Boney King of Nowwhere" made by Chad Weber.

The spelling error was my fault. I never picked up on the error myself (I rarely do), Geoff never said anything to me, so I thought everything was good. Then at the prescreenings one person noticed the error (I over heard them saying something about it. They did not bother telling us about it though) so after that I fixed everything (slates, opening/closing, review forms) and FTP'd the corrected stuff to Patrick.
I didn't get to see anything at the convention, so I am not sure if the corrected files were used or not. I was pretty sure I replaced the old files with the new ones on the server, so everything should have been correct.

Unless you are talking about the voting ballot (which I have not seen). I'm not sure who made those. I think someone from publications.

...even though the number of votes this year doubled, It's still a very small number compared to the amount of people who saw the contest. Having a awards ceremony shows people that their votes contributed to somthing important to the con

Geoff did something like this at the closing ceremonies. I walked by hearing him announce some sort of special award.

[genestarwind21122]

They did announce at the end of each contest that at the amv pannel they would be announcing the winners and you could see them ascept there awards. Also they played all the winners again at closing ceromonies. People just have to listen or ask questions at the con if they are truely interested.

Gene Starwind 21122