In Trouble with the Deen

MaximoffZero · Post by **MaximoffZero** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:51 pm

Finally I'm home. Well, I've tried all the suggestions and I still get this message when I try to playback the file:

deen : name list : 'c3d', 'a3d', 'm3d', 'a2d' or 'm2d'.
(C:\Project Folder\FMATest.avs, line 8)

It's basically saying that there is no "w3d". Not sure what's going on.

Zarxrax · Post by **Zarxrax** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:28 pm

You have the wrong version. The one in the amvapp supports w3d.

MaximoffZero · Post by **MaximoffZero** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:56 pm

That's about what I was thinking in the first place. The thing is I downloaded AMVapp a few days ago and told it overwrite my old Avisynth plugins. Apparently, the installer thought that my version of Deen was the latest one when it wasn't.

Oh well, I uninstalled Avisynth and AMVapp and then reinstalled the latter of the two (with Avisynth checked this time). Now Deen works fine and this footage is lookin' great!

Thanks a lot, Sereenie and Zarxrax (and whoever put together that AMVapp thing)!

Autraya · Post by **Autraya** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 5:21 pm

Let me know how it goes with the W's I haven't had much luck with them and ended up using A's instead.
I had big splotches & rainbows with W but more colour bands and much smaller splotches with A. I also resorted to 2d,3 on (scinitilla's? n others ) advice and there was a noticeble difference.
how does it work for you?

Which anime are you using it on?

MaximoffZero · Post by **MaximoffZero** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:18 pm

Hey Autraya,

I only played around with Deen for a little bit and I didn't get to test all of the settings. I mostly just toyed with a3d and w3d. I didn't get any rainbows like what you were getting but I definitely did see a few splotches. It looked as though Deen was turning large pixel blocks into large pixel blobs. In spite of that, however, I actually thought overall that this filter is a bit overkill. I was testing it on Fullmetal Alchemist because I noticed that that series in particular isn't encoded very well (I find this ironic considering that usually it's the unpopular animes that look crappy) and it needed some cleanup.

Anyway, it was a bit of overkill and it did seem to take out some detail (on top of that it was really slow on the conversion). Again I haven't tested all the settings yet, but from the short experience I've had I'd say save this filter for an anime that looks REALLY bad.

And no, I'm not working on a Fullmetal AMV. Just using it for tests

Qyot27 · Post by **Qyot27** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:39 pm

MaximoffZero wrote:I was testing it on Fullmetal Alchemist because I noticed that that series in particular isn't encoded very well (I find this ironic considering that usually it's the unpopular animes that look crappy) and it needed some cleanup.

Huh? When I worked with FMA it was some of the cleanest R1 footage I'd ever seen.

MaximoffZero · Post by **MaximoffZero** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:25 pm

Well I mean I've seen a lot worse (I own Street Fighter II V - horrible!) but I guess I was just expecting FMA to be next-to-perfect considering that it's one of the better-selling ones. I was surprised to see how blocky it was in some spots. Is it the worst-looking anime DVD? Not by a long shot. I just expected it to be better. I'm a little spoiled I guess.

Autraya · Post by **Autraya** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:29 pm

MaximoffZero wrote:Well I mean I've seen a lot worse (I own Street Fighter II V - horrible!)

Haha I just bought it on dvd (aussie releases are slow)
I've been thinking of doing something along those lines, and I'd be interested in seeing where you had problems with crappy footage and how you got around it.

MaximoffZero · Post by **MaximoffZero** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:19 am

Haha. Just because you mentioned it, I think I'll pull out SFIIV again tonight and see what I can do about cleaning it up. I've actually made an AMV with it before but I didn't know what I was doing back then and basically didn't filter the image at all (and in fact made it worse via encoding). When I get home from work I'll see about using Deen (or something) on it and see what happens. If I can get a good script going, I'll post it.

MaximoffZero · Post by **MaximoffZero** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:41 pm

Okay, I'm home and I've played around with it a bit (actually, for quite a while) and this is the best I've gotten it so far:

Before/After

This is the script I used to get there:

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Import ("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\mfRainbow-v0.31.avsi")
Import ("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\mfToon-v0.52a.avsi")
MPEG2Source ("C:\Project Folder\SFIIVTest\SFIIVTest.d2v")
AudioDub (WavSource ("C:\Project Folder\SFIIVTest\SFIIVTest T01 2_0ch 192Kbps 48KHz.wav"))
Telecide(order=1,guide=1) 
Decimate(cycle=5, mode=2)
MSmooth()
FluxSmoothST()
MfToon()
Tweak (hue=4.0,sat=1.2, bright=20, cont=1.12)
Crop (8,6,-8,-6)
LanczosResize (640,480)

This is definitely not perfect, however. In some spots it looks great but in other spots it looks like its overkill. Also, there's quite a bit of rainbow in this anime and I tried using mfrainbow to get rid of it but it looked like it was distorting the colors so I took it off.

Anyway, that's the best I've gotten it for right now. If anyone has any more suggestions let me know.