Samurai X: Reflection

Unlimited Rice · Post by **Unlimited Rice** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 5:21 pm

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wait.. did kaoru die like.. after the credits? or right there when the credits started??

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Tsunami Jones · Post by **Tsunami Jones** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 10:57 pm

IamSano wrote:Okay, so he had leprosy, but did he also have TB because he was coughing up blood (if i remember correctly). OR maybe coughing up blood is a symptom of leprosy?

He definately doesn't have TB (that one chick that was the sister of the other hiten-mitsurugi guy in the third season had TB). And is everyone absolutly positive that they had leprosy? 'Cause at the end of reflection, was Kenshin bringing back a cure for the disease to Kaoru?

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 3:40 am

IamSano wrote:Okay, so he had leprosy, but did he also have TB because he was coughing up blood (if i remember correctly). OR maybe coughing up blood is a symptom of leprosy?

TB is a lung cancer - yes, you have the interior bleeding, coughing, etc, but it has nothing to do with rotting flesh.

And no, there's nothing to say Shishio had leprosy, that's just my guess. Leprosy is a disease you get either through sex or some sort of physical transfer (rumor had it in the old days that just touching someone with it would transfer the disease, but it's more of a blood or fluid transfer disease than something you just breathe and catch). So...if he *did* have leprosy either Kenshin had sex with someone rotting, or it's that bandaged guy's bite. I don't know if anyone else in the series rubbed wounds with him or bit him, so Shishio is the only suspect that comes to mind. ^_^;;

Anyway, I have no idea if it were leprosy or not, but there were rumors of cures (like the touch of Jesus), but none that really worked (as in medicinal cures - they'd dull the pain but not stop the process).

Tsunami Jones · Post by **Tsunami Jones** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 1:08 pm

what's all this talk about shishio having leprosy? SHISHIO DID NOT HAVE LEPROSY! He was just shot in the face and had 99% of his body burned. That's why he wear's the freakin' bandages. Not because he had leprosy. And if he did have leprosy, his woman would have had leprosy too, which, she obvioulsy doesn't.

The Hitokiri Battousai · Post by **The Hitokiri Battousai** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 4:30 pm

no Kenshin went over to the continent (china) to help lead the Japanese Army (which Kenshin would of never had done) so no he didn't go find a cure for Kaoru.

I dont belive Kenshin had TB and i don't remember him coughing up blood unless it was a flash-back BEFORE he got leprosy. He maybe got leprosy from helping people who had leprosy cause Kenshin traveled alot helping people.

And also rotting flesh is a sure sign of leprosy (however in Shishio's case, he was burned)

The characters in Samurai X and RK is: Okina, Magdaira (Amakusa Shoujir - forget the name), Tokusugi, and someone else that I forget.

The Hitokiri Battousai · Post by **The Hitokiri Battousai** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 4:32 pm

The Hitokiri Battousai wrote: The characters in Samurai X and RK is: Okina, Magdaira (Amakusa Shoujir - forget the name), Tokusugi, and someone else that I forget.

Those are the only characters that had TB int he series i meant to say

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 5:13 pm

Tsunami Jones wrote:what's all this talk about shishio having leprosy? SHISHIO DID NOT HAVE LEPROSY! He was just shot in the face and had 99% of his body burned. That's why he wear's the freakin' bandages. Not because he had leprosy. And if he did have leprosy, his woman would have had leprosy too, which, she obvioulsy doesn't.

No need to be so defensive. ^_^ Of course he wore the bandages because he was burned. But since he never stripped for the camera, there's no telling what he might have had besides the burns. And leprosy isn't an instantly visible disease. Yumi died far too early to know if she'd contracted anything (for all anyone knows, she could have had it herself and given it to Shishio since she *was* an 'escort' - a kind name for a prostitute).

And it's true - Kenshin could have contracted it if he spent time with people who had it - so long as he was giving them very very close medical attention. Think of it as a sexually transmitted disease - you need *deep* contact to contract it. I'd think it more likely that he got it from being bathed in blood during his slaughters (so long as a lot of the blood got in an open wound) more than just helping sick people (unless he spent a lot of time as a hospital worker - I haven't read the manga so I wouldn't know).

Tsunami Jones · Post by **Tsunami Jones** » Sun Feb 15, 2004 11:45 am

Arigatomyna wrote:And it's true - Kenshin could have contracted it if he spent time with people who had it - so long as he was giving them very very close medical attention

Well, wasn't that what he was doing in China? If I remember correctly (which isn't necessarily a gaurentee of anything), he was going to China to help those who had caught this disease, as Kenshin was skilled in practicing medicine.

The Hitokiri Battousai wrote:no Kenshin went over to the continent (china) to help lead the Japanese Army (which Kenshin would of never had done) so no he didn't go find a cure for Kaoru

As I said before my memory is kinda a bit shaky, but I don't remember him going to directly lead the Japanese army. Also, look how much time had past. There was plenty enough time to look for a cure after kaoru contracted the disease. And he had found the "cure," as that's why he sent Sano to go kill that tiger. He needed it's liver for the medicine.

Anyways, I still don't think they have leprosy. As all Kaoru and Kenshin have are large "bruises" or I guess blood spots. Their actual flesh isn't rotting away. But i'm obviously no expert on leprosy. Maybe if I find some time I'll go do a little research on it.

IamSano · Post by **IamSano** » Sun Feb 15, 2004 9:25 pm

Okay...now a question about Kenji, their son. I am confused about what happens after the credits. At the end, after Kenshin and Kaoru die, why was Kenji just walking off with his "girlfriend"? She asked him "what is wrong" and he said "nothing" (if I remember correctly). Okay, so did he see the dead bodies of Kenshin and Kaoru or just...realize they were dead? And was he happy about their death because he didn't like them or because he was happy they were finally at peace?

burntoast · Post by **burntoast** » Tue Feb 17, 2004 12:36 am

IamSano wrote:Okay...now a question about Kenji, their son. I am confused about what happens after the credits. At the end, after Kenshin and Kaoru die, why was Kenji just walking off with his "girlfriend"? She asked him "what is wrong" and he said "nothing" (if I remember correctly). Okay, so did he see the dead bodies of Kenshin and Kaoru or just...realize they were dead? And was he happy about their death because he didn't like them or because he was happy they were finally at peace?

Kenji and his girlfriend are walking near the place his father and mother died at a time later than when they passed away.. He was probably just reminiscing about their death when he was asked, "What is wrong?"