Redona by Oro$hi

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Re: Redona by Oro$hi

Post by Magnus » Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:13 am

Cross/fade wrote:
chambeyc wrote: Where's the difference between using a video clip or any other anime?
mirkosp wrote: Doesn't make the vid less bad, though, it's a source like any other, in the end.
Putting aside Redona for the moment.

To be honest, I believe there's a huge difference. Anime as a source is something that needs polishing - you can't compare it to a real music video that was made by professionals and it's visually stunning as it is. When it comes to AMVs you can think of music videos footage as a nearly finished product - you can't say that about twenty something minutes long anime episodes. It's like a difference between cheap, supermarket beef and that high-quality Argentina beef (that I wanted to buy lately but I'm out of luck) when making a steak.
I second this statement. Unfortunatly I had lots of problems getting into it, but it really was well put together.
I don't know, just had problems with really "feeling" it.
Good job anyway :up:
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Re: Redona by Oro$hi

Post by neorose » Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:54 pm

Wow I take some time away from the org. and stuff like this pops out.... :up:

Made me feel happy.

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Re: Redona by Oro$hi

Post by mirkosp » Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:53 pm

oro$hi wrote:
Oro$hi In Amvnews wrote: for this, i'm terribly sorry, i forget to list some animes Mirkosp told me that too :
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/forum/v ... 4&start=15
i added the rest but i didn't found Atarashi Sekai in the list, i sent a request to the a-m-v.org but they didn't answer me yet :( i'm waiting, and thanks ^^
Can't find Atarashi Sekai at all in the database! Not as confirmed, nor as unconfirmed. :(
Will try to add it myself now.

EDIT: my tools don't allow me to unless I make a new amv entry to list a new anime through that... :(

EDIT2: Had to use a sort of workaround, but entry is now there.
You can now request "Atarashii Sekai (PV)" to be added to your sources through this.
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Re: Redona by Oro$hi

Post by Megamom » Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:57 pm

chambeyc wrote:
Gidrasan wrote:hm...i'm disappointed... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ6ZqMvnfw4 - great job man.... you are editor of the Year! lol
epic fail :down:
And then russian editors discovered that AMVs actually use existing footage ...
Where's the difference between using a video clip or any other anime?

Besides, Redona looks way better than the actual video clip (especially for sync), got quite some original scenes too done by Oroshi, and blends multiple animes brilliantly. It ends up in an enjoyable video ... may the amount of efforts done to create be greater than I thought, or not, I can't care less.
x2... To be honest... I think the same thing chambeyc, the work of adapting the anime and sequences like video music is awesome. :up:
mirkosp wrote:And this explains the source I couldn't just find!.
:P Mirko... I too take a week searching for the anime... I was very interested in it.
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Re: Redona by Oro$hi

Post by Moonlight Soldier » Sat Feb 27, 2010 2:50 am

I don't care what it uses, this was freakin' cool :up:

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Re: Redona by Oro$hi

Post by Bauzi » Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:02 am

To be honest, I believe there's a huge difference. Anime as a source is something that needs polishing
polishing? Does that make FF:AC, 5cm per second vids or Shinkai animes in general seam to be a less legit source for amvs?

Just wanted to say that.

Oh and we are the Remix Culture. Mixing together already existing sources and creatin something new is our hobby. It doesn't matter where it comes from.
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Re: Redona by Oro$hi

Post by Gidrasan » Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:43 am

Bauzi i would like to see... how you will be reaction than someone use your amv as a source... or if someone will use Skittles or Spoil amv in he mix))
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Re: Redona by Oro$hi

Post by Bauzi » Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:59 am

My reaction will be positive as long as the new creator doesn't claim that he made all the stuff by himself. Even worse: Still claiming it for himself after a lot of people pointed that out -> blatant lie. I even don't have a problem if they underlay it with new music and upload it on YouTube. Heck... just let them have the fun as long as they don't claim that they made all the stuff by themselves.

I don't see the problem. We all take already existing sources. Just because a source was already remixed doesn't make them illegal for new remixes. That would be highly hypocritcal.

When people began with this hobby, the whole sources were not that accesible. No DVDs, no easy ways to rip from VHS, no easy accessible high end software, crappy internet connections (-> no internet connections for those who REALLY started the hobby), some only had analog editing... they used what we had and that included clips from AMVs too.
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Re: Redona by Oro$hi

Post by Mastamind » Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:31 am

Although it may be disappointing to find he didn't make those clips, I agree with Bauzi. It's obvious a lot of effort was put into this anyways. There are many examples of great amvs that use professional music videos or even other amvs as a source.
And to Ori$hi- I've already watched this dozens of times and I still love it... I can't get enough of this video :shock:
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Re: Redona by Oro$hi

Post by EvaFan » Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:00 am

Bauzi wrote:
To be honest, I believe there's a huge difference. Anime as a source is something that needs polishing
polishing? Does that make FF:AC, 5cm per second vids or Shinkai animes in general seam to be a less legit source for amvs?

Just wanted to say that.

Oh and we are the Remix Culture. Mixing together already existing sources and creating something new is our hobby. It doesn't matter where it comes from.
I think what CF meant is that the source was already created with the idea in mind to be used with music and has all kinds of pretty animation and uses for sync. That doesn't mean other sources wont have those things but they were not created specifically for a visual experience set to music. Take Yogurting as another example... They can be used very easily for almost any music source without much if any work. An actual anime source could use some more "polishing" to get your visual representation of the music across. CF can correct me if I'm wrong of course.

Would you change your opinion in regards to a painting if you found out the coloring was done by a company instead of the sketcher? The painting is what it is just like this amv is what it is, otherwise now your being biased.
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