Auriga

Neverend · Post by **Neverend** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:13 pm

Goodie

Flusel · Post by **Flusel** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:29 pm

That was great work, again. I am very interested in the scene 2:43-2:46 which Anime is it please? I saw lots of Diebuster Footage, which is one of the greatest Anime I watched this year. Please do not forget to keep an eye on the flow and beats while using this many (great) effects. I think you can better define the style of an AMV by using a restrcited and fixed set of effects -- of course I did not do something like this yet, so it is just an idea.

LeapofFate · Post by **LeapofFate** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:16 pm

That was damn impressive

60 fps <33

Niotex · Post by **Niotex** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:07 pm

People keep bugging me about my opinion on this video.. So here go's..
This'll be a bit of a messy post so bare with me as I'm doing shit on the fly.

Auriga
Redemption at last or so it seems. After the imo 2 lesser attempts on your part. I feel as if we've come full circle again, right back to where I like it. I think its a well known fact that I didn't care for Magic Pad nor HypnoStar and this is fine as you are free do edit as you please. The fact that people compare this to Magic Pad frustrates me more then you'd Imagen. As honestly IF this video needed to be compared to ANY your previous work it would have to be similar to Vectorman/Galaxy Bounce. And honestly.. That's where I'd rather see it.

I feel as if the video complimented the audio very well in terms of power and flow. But this is something you often seem to manage, so I'll leave it at that.

The actual editing bugged me here and there and I could tell there you had been limited by your tools. This isn't such a huge issue though, as based on your tool set you've done a more then exceptional job. And I might even go as far as to say that you gave me the impression of yourself being a masochist. As unless I'm unaware of a tracking plugin for Premiere, the pain of manually tracking text layers for the intro must have been painful. With that being said though I can't really believe that you did that manually. If you did then hands down.

As I've said a couple of times now I really enjoyed the video, but I can't help but feel awkward considering a few editing choices both scene as editing wise. My concern isn't really the different sources but more the inconsistency's that they bring. The main problem cuts for me were:

[Note these are the time codes I grabbed off 720@60 Making off] wrote:00:29;27/00:41;04 - Where this scene seems perfectly normal the speedup used makes it feel completely unnatural and thus simply out of place. I think a slight speed adjustment making it a little slower would have increased the flow dramatically.

01:02;01/01:03;51 - Motion feels WAY too chaotic compared to all the scenes before and after in this section. Although it really does demonstrate the power of 60fps it again breaks the flow for me.

01:11;14/01:11:50 - This random EF pop-up seems completely irrelevant to what has happened in the video so far. Again this could be a buildup for the usage of EF later on but it seems too random to me.

01:22;24/01:27;46 - The highly contrasted scroll bar or thick scanline that your using simply does not cut it here either. I would have loved to see some graphics to keep the eye entertained like you did at 00:50;29. Granted this could again have distracted from Nono's buildup so yeah.. I'm not quiet out on this one.

01:35;43/01:37;36 - Had you taken the time to mask the digi-book from Ergo then this shot would have been a money shot. And I really feel like you were lazy on this one.

01:43;18/01:44;23 - Although the motion in this scene works the character is again in no way related to anything that has come before. I think you could have done a little better job with the colors to make it "pop out" less then it currently is. As the Orange seems to bypass the original Red tint completely. I recommend bringing the saturation down a little before messing with the Red look. As this takes away most of the yellows that are causing this orange look.

01:50;30/01:55;56 - This scene doesn't bug me but I'm mentioning it none the less as the old film filter doesn't really fit. Mind you I think its from the source so I can't call you on that. But mentioned it regardless just in case.

02:47;09/02:49;24 - Green hue's is all I have to say..

02:49;25/02:51;17 - At first I just thought this felt completely off. Then when I actually looked at it a little closer I saw what I honestly found to be bad compositing.. You can only get away with so much but this is again one of those scenes that could have been a money shot.

03:21;37/03:25;25 - The Melody footage [the lines] is WAY too blurry.. And the upscale is sadly very noticeable in this shot. If your doing something like this I really do recommend doing your own line art as its not that hard to make. It would create a overall tighter shot during the transition.

03:45;54/03:46;48 - I fucking love Nono.. I mean seriously.. Not as much as JCD and Messi but G F'ing Damn I want her to give birth to my baby's! [ZS Also say's FOKYESH!@! to Nono] *cough* So with that out of the way.. What the fuck is up with the compression of your source there. I mean I realize its an upscale and that even with filtering it can be a hassle.. But this is one of the key shots in this sequence.. The least you could have done is touch it up in Paintshop Pro..

03:47;51/03:48;36 - Random YS footage.. This was like a sucker punch for me as I fucking love this action sequence.

04:17;14/04:18;26 - Multi screen Nono is a Nono.

04:24;14/04:26;05 - The upscaling of Nono and then again zooming in really shows the limits to dvd footage. And again this is a real shame as this is a good sequence. I recommend that if you do this dvd upscaling again and if you have a static shot like this again you touch it up. Like I noted its a static so you could've even completely vector it and.

04:45;34/04:47;38 - Although I do appreciate the extra effort in the lip syncing here it feels kinda weird. It's not bad but it isn't perfect either you know. Effort is appreciated though.

- 720p gimmick or valid?
People should get used to it. An increasing amount of anime is starting to become HD. And as our sources improve so should our video's. And despite some noticeable scenes here and there you made it allot more appealing for the general "public" to switch over as it really does make a huge difference. A interesting plus side to HD sources which sadly you didn't fully explore as much as I would have liked. The fact that you have more room do do stuff and more detailed and smaller stuff. Might be something worth looking into next time around.

- 60fps gimmick or valid?
I noticed allot of talk on this subject. And honestly those who say the human eye cant detect the doubled fps is a complete moron. 25/30 FPS is a standard set to achieve fluid motion by minimum means necessary. A good example of this would be a fast waving hand. On 24[film]/30[video] while its still fluid it still looks completely different. In reality the eye is allot more pleased with 50/60 fps as this is where the "average" limit is for them. I've been using a similar technique on my current video to achieve full fps rather then the 12 fps animation. And having seen it from both the editor as the viewers angle I can safely say this is something people should look into more. All the none believers should be shunned period.

The slight distorted frames that this method you used introduced aren't at all noticeable in motion unless you really pay attention to them. I've also come across them with the technique I use and sadly I cant seem to find a work around for it. So keeping them as limited as you did deserves props.

Noticeable 60Fps scenes wrote: 00:18;04/00:25;23
00:27;47/00:41;04

Actually fuck that pretty much the entire video displays it just fine no need for me to actually list timecodes and such.. On we go shall we?

Auriga Making of
Wewt I've always enjoy these in general and where as I was actually expecting a bland making of video it was a interesting treat on its own. Its kind of like how "Syncer Thingers" can be just as entertaining as the actual video. Very stylish again in its own way and thus very enjoyable to watch.

I like the layout you used to display what/where and in some cases "how". Though I would have liked to see more of the how. Or at least a better comparison for the difference between 30/60 fps. As I'm sure more people would appreciate the extra work put into it.

Final word
I probably forgot allot as I was writing this.. In short I actually really enjoyed this video and it is for me personally one of the most enjoyable video's I've seen so far this year. Along with that I think this is my first overall positive review I've done all year so its a win win situation for everyone. This video has also been the final drop in the bucket for me to actually get off my ass and get a HDMI cable for my HDTV. As I used to stream stuff over the network the 60fps version simply wouldn't hold up in the action sequences. Granted the 30fps version works fine but yeah.. not the full deal.

Awesome Poes good etc etc

The Elitist Hikikomori gives this video..

I might edit this into a op lateron =ω=.

ZephyrStar · Post by **ZephyrStar** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:22 pm

I like Nono's luggage. Hot.
I'd agree with what Mitch said for the most part.

Shinzo · Post by **Shinzo** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:29 pm

very good work ^_^

Koopiskeva · Post by **Koopiskeva** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:23 am

oh, i thought i already posted in this..

however, good times

» AceMan · Post by **» AceMan** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:51 am

Sequels usually are a lot weaker than their predecessors. And this, sadly, is no exception. I don't know how you feel about your video and what you were planning to make, but blame me or not, for me it's the Magic Pad 2.

The idea is almost the same (the only difference is that this song has lyrics and you tried to sync to them) - eyecandy sources, stunning visual effects, magnificient transitions and blendings, etc etc + trance track. This was totally awesome combination in MP, which I love. But not this time. And it's all because of... the song.

It's a bit sad, but true - the song killed all the entertaiment I would feel if it wasn't emotionless, boring, uninteresting tune. If the track was something like melodious and hypnotic one from MP, I would have an orgasm every time I watched it.

I appreciate all the work you did - selecting scenes, ripping them, cleaning, all the montage and FXs. Additional kudos for such resolution and fps (though I don't really care about them ;)) All of this is perfect. But I just can't sit down and watch it with pleasure, because it doesn't turns me on :(

Reigna · Post by **Reigna** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:46 pm

Nice work.

jtGz · Post by **jtGz** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:25 pm

Editing from outer space but song didnt allow me to enjoy it as much as I wished for. I esteem Your skills and the effort You put into the video... Respect.