Engel

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:20 pm

Kionon wrote:And oddly enough, your "320x240" Caldwell screencaps are not 4:3 (I checked against my copy of Caldwell's original), but your "640x480" caps clearly are. O.o What's up with that?

That's because -- surprise! -- Caldwell's MPEG-1 version is actually 352x240. (Flagged for 4:3 like any such MPEG-1 should be.)

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:22 pm

I'm gonna do an Engel remake with DBZ now.

Kaysow · Post by **Kaysow** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:26 pm

I used to burn that video to VCDs a lot back when. Maybe what I had lying around was a rip off one of those.

Melanchthon · Post by **Melanchthon** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:51 pm

What's all the fuss about the cropping? If what the editor is after is Engel in top quality, then why not use the whole available picture? I doubt the cropping in the original file was an artistic decision.

I was going to mention the video in my last post, but I kind of forgot.

I'm glad you fixed the synch on the boat and in the lift (the first was the only thing that ever really bothered me), but there are a couple of parts where the editing doesn't work out too well. Apart from the aspect ratio and Asuka's teeth, I thought her head whipped around a bit quick during the bit taken from the power-cut episode.

If I were remaking this video (and I did consider it at one point), the series would be 640x480 and the movie 640x352 and manually letterboxed.

YouTube · Post by **Kionon** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:01 pm

Scintilla wrote:
Kionon wrote:And oddly enough, your "320x240" Caldwell screencaps are not 4:3 (I checked against my copy of Caldwell's original), but your "640x480" caps clearly are. O.o What's up with that?
That's because -- surprise! -- Caldwell's MPEG-1 version is actually 352x240. (Flagged for 4:3 like any such MPEG-1 should be.)

DUR. I should have known that. However this does illustrate my point of what "flagging" is and what it does.

Melanchthon wrote:What's all the fuss about the cropping? If what the editor is after is Engel in top quality, then why not use the whole available picture? I doubt the cropping in the original file was an artistic decision.

This is true. Let's go ahead and call it optional cropping, although I would do it, just to make sure the aspect ratio displays matched.

If I were remaking this video (and I did consider it at one point), the series would be 640x480 and the movie 640x352 and manually letterboxed.
This is exactly what I was asking for. That would produce the ideal 4:3 resolved copy for downloading.

shiro_clanclan · Post by **shiro_clanclan** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:15 pm

Castor Troy wrote:I'm gonna do an Engel remake with DBZ now. :P

I love you. +1

I watched the remake and thought I noticed scene differences, but it's been a long time since I'd watched the original. It could just be the fact that your framerate (well, considering the techies here, let's just say how many frames you actually got compared to Caldwell's capture) is higher than the original, so it flowed more smoothly and allowed for really tiny detailed motions to show up. That's probably what's messing with me.

Great work... but I agree with Kionon. A computer-optimized resolution and aspect ratio would rock.

Kaysow · Post by **Kaysow** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:43 pm

Working on it =)

Alright, I can live with that. We'll just see if I'll be able to upload another one.

Sounds to me like I should do the cut to 640x480 with the Platinum-footage (using a little crop). Then is there an exact size I should give the EoE segment before adding letterboxes?

"Powercut"?

I couldn't really tell everytime it was "supposed" to synch up correctly, so I just corrected everything that had been bothering me up until now. So hopefully, all scenes that are obvious deviations from the original should sync up better, all the others should be unaltered.

What's this about the teeth? Is it any of my photoshops that look weird?

Knowname · Post by **Knowname** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:04 pm

Kaysow wrote:Working on it =)

Alright, I can live with that. We'll just see if I'll be able to upload another one.

Sounds to me like I should do the cut to 640x480 with the Platinum-footage (using a little crop). Then is there an exact size I should give the EoE segment before adding letterboxes?

"Powercut"?

I couldn't really tell everytime it was "supposed" to synch up correctly, so I just corrected everything that had been bothering me up until now. So hopefully, all scenes that are obvious deviations from the original should sync up better, all the others should be unaltered.

What's this about the teeth? Is it any of my photoshops that look weird?

why don't you ysi it to Kionon and than upload it to the org. lol I think everybody else but Scintilla and a few other are as confused or moreso than you o.0.

Lol I hope you didn't think your project was over -_- anyway again, I say, you rock! ;p

Knowname · Post by **Knowname** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:07 pm

and the teeth thing was just meant for yokes ;p, but yeah, she does have alot of little things you had to pay attention to to be 100% accurate.

Turbo · Post by **Turbo** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:20 pm

After our conversation, I was thinking that you won't finish it. My bad. =) You've made great job. You fix some my errors. And now aspect ration in the middle the same as original (this wasn't mistake that was my choice). But you added some lypsyncing erros, which, I think, could be seen by others only frame by frame. But I see this video nearly 500 times, so I catch it. =) And there is some problems with coloring of video. The colors are so dark. (My source video was way lighter but very noisy). You took the original scenes in 3:45, but the timer still there ... I couldn't find this scene too.

Great work, it's a pitty that I got full renewal after 5 months I made my Remaster. So for now I can change my version with yours.

And it would be good to see other remastering: Believe, Caffeine Encomium, Sleep Now, e.g. I hope, you'll think about it.