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Re: [DP]Sullen

Post by Nya-chan Production » Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:15 am

Okay, then, tell us some of the famous vids using Jin-Roh only or a few examples of mid-tier videos using it, please.

Btw, originality doesn't have much to do with audio and video (though rarity does help, because even audio and video can be original!) but with the way it's put together - even Linkin Park/Naruto video canj be original, but it will still use overused sources.
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Post by SeNniN » Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:17 pm

Enigma wrote:I saw this back when it came out, Still love it :P

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And don't mind Gaurry, He's pretty naive himself.
Thanks soup, yea I had it up on youtube for sometime. :asd:
Ileia wrote:This is actually the only full-length Jin-Roh video I've really enjoyed. Great job!


Though, I haven't seen many since it's not an overused source. (And since apparently, the basis for understanding whether or not something is overused is your join date, I win since I've been around the longest. Problem solved! \o/)
:shock: Thanks! hah.. Gaurry just has a thing for Jin-Roh. I guess he was attacked by a pack of wolfs at one point in his life.
Gaurry wrote:Of course, of course. "overused" its only the quantity of vids. and "originality" its "rare video + rare music." lol.
Unfortunately you dont have word similar to the term "boyan".
Gaurry give it a rest will you, just admit you were wrong. :rofl:
Nya-chan Production wrote:Okay, then, tell us some of the famous vids using Jin-Roh only or a few examples of mid-tier videos using it, please.

Btw, originality doesn't have much to do with audio and video (though rarity does help, because even audio and video can be original!) but with the way it's put together - even Linkin Park/Naruto video canj be original, but it will still use overused sources.
Go Nya-chan! lol you got him beat. :asd:
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Re: [DP]Sullen

Post by Gaurry » Sat Jul 17, 2010 3:31 am

Nya-chan Production wrote: Btw, originality doesn't have much to do with audio and video (though rarity does help, because even audio and video can be original!) but with the way it's put together - even Linkin Park/Naruto video canj be original, but it will still use overused sources.
"originality" its "rare video + rare music." (c) people from the a-m-v.org
Nya-chan Production wrote:Okay, then, tell us some of the famous vids using Jin-Roh only or a few examples of mid-tier videos using it, please.
Why? How it concerns a theme "overused source"? JinRoh-vids differ nothing from each other. All of them about war or similar themes. Because of monotony of the maintenance of clips any source becomes "overused". The quantity is the minor factor.
In this vid created a good atmosphere of tension. It allocates this vid among other JinRoh-vids a little. Therefore I have written "not bad for overused source". If vid was as usually about war or about something similar, I would write "one more JinRoh-vid".
If you use "overused" source, it is necessary to do very original video.
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Re: [DP]Sullen

Post by Nya-chan Production » Sat Jul 17, 2010 3:57 am

Gaurry wrote:
Nya-chan Production wrote: Btw, originality doesn't have much to do with audio and video (though rarity does help, because even audio and video can be original!) but with the way it's put together - even Linkin Park/Naruto video canj be original, but it will still use overused sources.
"originality" its "rare video + rare music." (c) people from the a-m-v.org
Some of them maybe - but I doubt most of them do think like this.
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Nya-chan Production wrote:Okay, then, tell us some of the famous vids using Jin-Roh only or a few examples of mid-tier videos using it, please.
Why? How it concerns a theme "overused source"? JinRoh-vids differ nothing from each other. All of them about war or similar themes. Because of monotony of the maintenance of clips any source becomes "overused => UNORIGINAL!". The quantity is the minor factor.
In this vid created a good atmosphere of tension. It allocates this vid among other JinRoh-vids a little. Therefore I have written "not bad for overused source". If vid was as usually about war or about something similar, I would write "one more JinRoh-vid".
If you use "overused" source, it is necessary to do very original video.
I think you are confusing the terms here ^^;;

We have two factors here:

- overusage (quantity is the MAJOR factor for overusage)
- originality (using the source in a new and creative way)

and they aren't connected, thus you can get one of the following:

- unoriginal video using overused source (Linkin Park/Naruto/DBZ vid not bringing anything new)
- 1 anime, 10 000 videos, all about the same thing
- unoriginal video using not overused source (Jin-Roh about war, sappy romance from some less known romance anime)
- 1 anime, 5 videos, all about the same thing
- original video using not overused source (in a way the video we speak about, as I read from your post)
- 1 anime, 5 videos, every of them original (or at least the one you are doing)
- original video using overused source (very original idea with bleach or Bebop (maybe using Vocaloids in it? :> ))
- 1 anime, 10 000 videos about different stuff and you still manage to think of something new

Of course, it's always easier making unoriginal video to overused source and original to not overused, but it's not always the case.

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Re: [DP]Sullen

Post by Gaurry » Sat Jul 17, 2010 5:45 am

I already told to you - you (west amvmakers) dont have similar word to term "boyan". thats why I must use word "overused" like more similar. Any way - I am right - you are wrong :wink:
Nya-chan Production wrote:Some of them maybe - but I doubt most of them do think like this.
On org all authors whom I put a low point for originality, cried "why? I did not see any video on this anime with this music..."
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Post by Nya-chan Production » Sat Jul 17, 2010 5:46 am

Gaurry wrote:I already told to you - you (west amvmakers) dont have similar word to term "boyan". thats why I must use word "overused" like more similar. Any way - I am right - you are wrong :wink:
Can you post me a definition or example somewhere?
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Post by Gaurry » Sat Jul 17, 2010 6:51 am

Nya-chan Production wrote: Can you post me a definition or example somewhere?
mmm. "Often used source which scenes are used in the same sense":

FF7 - action
Elfen Lied - bloody video
Jin Roh - action, video about war
Evangelion - video about robots
Code Geass - action, video about robots
Kara no Kyoukai - action
Bakemonogatari - random cutting of beautiful scenes
Ef - random cutting of beautiful scenes, standard romantic video
5 Centimeters per Second - random cutting of beautiful scenes, standard romantic video

and many others.
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Post by Ileia » Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:03 am

Ah, then a more accurate way to describe what you mean is an "overused theme" rather than an overused source.
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Post by Scintilla » Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:45 am

Gaurry wrote:Unfortunately you dont have word similar to the term "boyan".
I believe "Lu Xun" can be used as a synonym. :P
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Post by EvaFan » Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:05 am

Gaurry wrote:If you use "overused" source, it is necessary to do very original video
What an obstructive mentality towards amvs :down: .

Anyway I liked the mood throughout this editing was cool too, the instrumental fit really well. Nice combo.
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