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Re: Would She Give It All ?

Post by MycathatesyouAMV » Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:09 pm

Im guessing me cropping after rendering the video in Vegas was the problem. I cropped because in vegas the video was showing very small black videos at the border which I dont know why so I used crop to fix it which I didnt check that in the rendered non compressed non mp4 version the borders didnt show up. So Im guessing if I didnt crop and just kept the video at it's size which was already 640X360 it would be good right ?
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Re: Would She Give It All ?

Post by Taite » Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:33 pm

riiiiiiiight. :| Is it that big a deal? Quite frankly I could give a damn if three or four clips were stretched. Whoop de doo, Basil.
Anyhow...
It was really good. I've never seen Elfen Lied, and I've never really been interested in it because it all just seemed like blood, guts and boobies. But this video made me think otherwise. It's really refreshing. You focused on a side of the anime that I've hardly ever seen, so that was cool for me. The editing was good as well. Nothing too bothersome anywhere. Like the band too.
Gj. For a video after a year break, it's pretty damn good. :up:
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Re: Would She Give It All ?

Post by Phantasmagoriat » Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:08 pm

Taite wrote:riiiiiiiight. :| Is it that big a deal? Quite frankly I could give a damn if three or four clips were stretched. Whoop de doo, Basil.
No, it's not that big a deal, but if you were the editor, wouldn't you want to know what you did right, and what you did wrong?
MycathatesyouAMV wrote:Im guessing me cropping after rendering the video in Vegas was the problem. I cropped because in vegas the video was showing very small black videos at the border which I dont know why so I used crop to fix it which I didnt check that in the rendered non compressed non mp4 version the borders didnt show up. So Im guessing if I didnt crop and just kept the video at it's size which was already 640X360 it would be good right ?
I'm not completely sure what you are trying to say, but if you are getting black borders... you shouldn't be... unless you added them yourself, or your project setting weren't right. I would have to see your export from Vegas to know what happened. Although it seems like your video would be 720x480, where the top/bottom 60 pixels are black borders. Stretched to 854x480 and cropped would be correct, and it would look just like the images Kev posted.
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Re: Would She Give It All ?

Post by Taite » Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:16 pm

Phantasmagoriat wrote:
Taite wrote:riiiiiiiight. :| Is it that big a deal? Quite frankly I could give a damn if three or four clips were stretched. Whoop de doo, Basil.
No, it's not that big a deal, but if you were the editor, wouldn't you want to know what you did right, and what you did wrong?
Of course. I'm not saying pointing it out is so terrible. But when that's the only thing you mention about the video and it becomes the center of all discussion, it's kinda sad. (not saying you did)
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Re: Would She Give It All ?

Post by MycathatesyouAMV » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:34 pm

Here is what the video looked like in my editing program, I had no idea why my editing program was putting these small borders there but oddly after the video was rendered, the borders were gone, thus the reason I cropped was because of the borders I saw, but I didnt check in rendered video to see if they were there so I just went right ahead to my script and set it to crop them and then resize to 640,360. And as for the project settings the normal explanation would be wrong pizel aspect ratio, except for mine is correct as it's set to 1.0.

Edit: I checked the avi files made from putting the .d2v files into vdub and the black side borders are on them also so apparently it's not my program doing it.

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Re: Would She Give It All ?

Post by Phantasmagoriat » Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:30 pm

Ok, so the little borders on the left and right have little to do with this,

I'm interested in what happened to the top and bottom of the screen.
Because I'm pretty sure 60 pixels were cropped from the top and bottom at some point.
I just don't know when it happened.

If this was the original image:
Image1


and you followed the stretching rules mentioned above,
it *should* look like this:
spline36resize(640,360)
Image2

this is what we've got:
Image3
You can see that the top and bottom of the image was cropped off, and the image was stretched to 640x360.


If you can't undo the cropping, you can reverse everything else that happened by doing this:
directshowsource("MycathatesyouAMV - Would She Give It All.mp4")
spline36resize(720,360) # resolution after cropping
addborders(0,60,0,60) # original 720x480 resolution
spline36resize(640,360) # correct AR
Image4
which looks just like image #2 [but without the top and bottom]

... or you could compensate with the AR flag in zarx264gui, by going to the Advanced tab and setting AR to 2.35:1

but anyways, the take-home-message can be summed up with the stretching rules I first posted.
It should make things easier for future amv's,
and you seem to put a lot of effort into your work,
so you don't want something like the AR throwing it off.
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Re: Would She Give It All ?

Post by CodeZTM » Sat Mar 20, 2010 9:42 pm

Barring talking about the technical aspects [I do believe that Phan dealed with that very nicely, and I STRONGLY suggest taking his advice in the future], it was still a very nice video. I've never been a big EL fan, but this work was pretty nice. It really spoke to me, and I enjoyed the text opening and the overall mood. I wasn't fond of the effects, but it was still pretty nice.

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Re: Would She Give It All ?

Post by MycathatesyouAMV » Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:19 am

Thanks for the responses, could use a couple more non technical opiniond.
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