Land of Confusion

[Krisqo]

It was pretty good. Very simple with no fancy shit and whatnot. I did not like that little audio edit. It was way to abrupt and didn't flow. Overall, I kinda liked it, but I watched right after I woke up so I'll watch it again when I'm more awake.

[x_rex30]

about the audio edits. I tried to make them flow as seamlessly as possible. That one edit, I knew people were going to bitch about it. There were actually quite a few audio edits in the song, that one specific one was tough to do and I didn't want to worry about it too much, and the audio that was between the cut I couldn't figure out what visuals to put there and I thought it would of done more damage to the video if I tried adding that part of the song in. It's a slow part of the song and footage was on limited supply and I couldn't add anything that I felt would contribute. It's abrupt I know, I hope people could look past that mishap and kind of think of it as they would a split segment like they'd see in a mep. I'm so use to seeing it(well not in short videos), I didn't feel it would be too much of a big deal.

Here are the audio cuts(in order).

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0-2:15.08

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2:15.09 to 3:22.03

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3:22.04 to 3:57.04(inserted at 2:15.09 and ends at 2:50.09)

excluded
3:57.04 to 4:13.02

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4:13.02 to 4:29.05(inserted at 2:49.14 *fade effect* and ends at 3:05.17)

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4:29.06 to 4:35.11

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4:35.12 to 4:44.04(inserted at 3:05.18 and ends at 3:14.11)

I'll add some reply to some comments latter or add more tidbits. Just thought I'd throw this bit of info though first.

[Otohiko]

I'll echo Flint on most of it, except that the song edits didn't jump out at me at all. It's a story AMV of oldschool likes, not 'omg sync!'. I think it would have actually been a lot more effective with rhythm sync (maybe because the rhythm is very prominent in the song), not that it doesn't do its job without that. There's actually some really nice internally-synched moments (and likewise a few awkward ones - or maybe amusing where they shouldn't have been). If anything, you did do a good job with the vocals (not just the lyrics) and guitar lines. Naturally, of course, props on the song choice and following through with the whole idea - the sources fit together nicely and you keep them together nicely without going into 'pure action' mode.

Not bad. Not bad at all. Definitely along my line of interest!

[Flint the Dwarf]

I didn't feel it would be too much of a big deal.

It was just really jarring. Especially since I'm familiar with the song. But I didn't even pick up on all the edits first time through, so overall the edits were well done. Just that one at 2:15, and I figure since you cut out over a minute of audio it's permissable. Honestly I prefer shorter videos.

[x_rex30]

Thanks for watching Oto! I'm glad you had the chance to check this out! ^_^

It's a story AMV of oldschool likes, not 'omg sync!'.

Yeah, I thought some wont like it for that reason. My pointless action videos are the most well received videos here, the two original eva vids I made. The remastered video doesn't count, that seems to be among peoples favorite, and the edits aren't originally mine anyways.

I think it would have actually been a lot more effective with rhythm sync (maybe because the rhythm is very prominent in the song), not that it doesn't do its job without that.

Thanks for the constructive feedback on that. I'll try to be more considerate of that next time.

There's actually some really nice internally-synched moments (and likewise a few awkward ones - or maybe amusing where they shouldn't have been). If anything, you did do a good job with the vocals (not just the lyrics) and guitar lines. Naturally, of course, props on the song choice and following through with the whole idea - the sources fit together nicely and you keep them together nicely without going into 'pure action' mode.

I'm glad you noticed the things I hope people will notice. I feel some people watch a video and only see beats, they don't notice anything else and that that would be the downfall of the video. People with a keen eye and natural sense of synch seem to see what I was going for.

Not bad. Not bad at all. Definitely along my line of interest!

Glad you took some interest in this! ^__^

It was just really jarring. Especially since I'm familiar with the song. But I didn't even pick up on all the edits first time through, so overall the edits were well done. Just that one at 2:15, and I figure since you cut out over a minute of audio it's permissable.

I thought some fans of the song would be like "You murderer!!!". Though I'm hoping still this video does justice to the song to fans of the song.

So far the only constructive negative feedback I've gotten on this video is the audio cuts, and a few other things from oto. Other than that I have two really negative QCs about the whole video that aren't really that constructive. I'm guessing Cornwiggle and Bebop0083. A lot of videos of mine get these two really awkward reviews. One of my most impressionable videos in terms of it's quality got all ones by bebop and I got this childish quick comment about it around the same time which I'm guessing is from his butt buddy cornwiggle.

Honestly I prefer shorter videos.

I use to refuse to edit songs, and want all the videos I made to be around 5 minutes or more(my earlier videos should be an indication). This stopped me a lot from making videos only because I refused to edit the song. I'm glad I finally decided to edit the audio. do you have any idea how hard it is to edit a 6 minute song and keep it consistent!? I still have a few lengthy songs that I want to make with no edits, but I'm a quick editor, I always have the urge to be quick about it. The videos I've been wanting to make the most since I've joined this site I haven't made yet because they'd take months and the uncertainty that they'd turn out the way I plan is another bump in the road.

WTF, this isn't Neverending Love!


Haha, in all seriousness I liked this video, one of the best I've seen from you. And that's saying something because I HATE AKIRA and can't stand most videos with it.

I'm really glad you like it since I got a lot of respect for you as an editor(same with Oto and Flint) especially due to the fact you don't even like Akira. That's a plus!

Thanks everyone for the comments!

[Willen]

I didn't feel it would be too much of a big deal.

It was just really jarring. Especially since I'm familiar with the song. But I didn't even pick up on all the edits first time through, so overall the edits were well done. Just that one at 2:15, and I figure since you cut out over a minute of audio it's permissable.

x2

Other than that song edit, everything else was great. The length was about right, and the video was a great example of the old-school style that didn't rely heavily on beat-sync or effects.

[x_rex30]

the video was a great example of the old-school style that didn't rely heavily on beat-sync or effects.

ha! thnx! ^^

stupid anonymous users!!

well, someone said..

"Did I notice Rainbowing around the hard lines? I really expect a higher visual qaulity out of you ...."

just incase he runs into this thread here, I'll say what is up with any quality issues anyone may have noticed..

I used no filters. None. Didn't even deinterlace since most of the source is progressive(go frame by frame, only little blending due to some speed ups actually)

I did clean up the quality but then decided fuck it, I wanted a gritty look. I got rid of all noise, rainbow effects, etc through filtering, but I went ahead and took it out because I wasn't satisfied with the export. Sorry dude, I didn't know anyone had expectations from me. Just watch Reiterate to Irritate, sometimes I just don't care about filtering.

Besides, I've already had some good comments on the visual quality, it looks really good with the two pass mode done to it, and with it's fast motion, really i doubt many people would notice any issues except for it getting blocky in some places. I personally haven't seen a better looking akira video, except maybe when I found it in various anime amvs done by Pwolf and Jebadia.

[Esrhan]

x_rex30, bringing up any quick comments and replying to them on these forums is a little immature, to be honest. You don't really need to explain yourself to him/her in an attempt to defend your choice of action. If someone wants ultima-superior visual quality, then saying you don't care about filtering won't changes his comment at all.

Anyway, I'm gonna have to go along with Flint's words. This was a simple anime music video with a hint of old school flavor in it. The song edits were quite noticeable but not really disturbing. I'm a little worried, though, no one has clearly mentioned that this AMV includes good lyric sync. That's something I always tip my hat off to when the message is brought out with the fine use of lyrics. Many of today's videos completely drop that out and go for the fancy visual appeal.

Hmm, this would have easily made to it to my favorite videos, if you had used a more interesting and modern anime and Disturbed's cover of this song. I would have wanted an even more realistic and gruesome video out of this concept. Now it's a bit mild for my taste.

[x_rex30]

x_rex30, bringing up any quick comments and replying to them on these forums is a little immature, to be honest.

I know, but I want to reply to them and I think the person ran into the video through this thread. I would of pmed him saying why I didn't care, so since I couldn't just did it this way instead. Also thought some other people might have thought the same thing, so that was a reply to those wondering as well. Meh, look at my pathetic attempt to defend myself. Either way, I don't think it was any worse than going over the reasons and specific edits with flint IMO. That's just me though.

I'm a little worried, though, no one has clearly mentioned that this AMV includes good lyric sync. That's something I always tip my hat off to when the message is brought out with the fine use of lyrics. Many of today's videos completely drop that out and go for the fancy visual appeal.

Thanks.

I'm a little surprised no one mentioned the lip synch yet in this thread, that has had to be a bit funky for some people, it's quite a challenge to do in this anime imo, I even had to do a lot of masking in certain areas and I reversed the clips in certain areas. At area 1:04, he's originally moving his head around a lot when he's moving his arms. I had 2 masks in this scene.

Hmm, this would have easily made to it to my favorite videos, if you had used a more interesting and modern anime and Disturbed's cover of this song. I would have wanted an even more realistic and gruesome video out of this concept.

Maybe you could find an AMV like that already. There is a really good video like that on google. Realistic and pretty gruesome. Doesn't use anime though, it mixes scenes of war, the Disturbed video and the original. Realistic and pretty gruesome. Think you'd like it, it's very well done IMO. It even mixes the two songs together. I wanted to contact the creator to get a copy of his mix. I think he did the song mixing and the video editing.

Oh, Thanks for the honest feedback. Appreciate it!! ^_^

[Willen]

I'm a little worried, though, no one has clearly mentioned that this AMV includes good lyric sync. That's something I always tip my hat off to when the message is brought out with the fine use of lyrics. Many of today's videos completely drop that out and go for the fancy visual appeal.

Thanks.

I'm a little surprised no one mentioned the lip synch yet in this thread, that has had to be a bit funky for some people, it's quite a challenge to do in this anime imo, I even had to do a lot of masking in certain areas and I reversed the clips in certain areas. At area 1:04, he's originally moving his head around a lot when he's moving his arms. I had 2 masks in this scene.

I would have mentioned the lyric sync, but I felt it was quite obvious and I don't usually point out the obvious. I'm too subtle for that. And well, I'm a lazy bastard.