Why do you review your own meps

x_rex30 · Post by **x_rex30** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:22 am

I'm getting quite sick of this but I keep getting misinterpretations of meps because the creators review it and give it straight tens. Here are some examples of this garbage bs..

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... p?v=110701

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... p?v=103788

the second vids first 3 ops had perfect tens by people who worked on the video.. The visual quality doesn't deserve more than an 8. and every op for the first one is done by people who worked on it.

What are peoples thoughts on this. I already know bringing this up is going to piss some people off.

JaddziaDax · Post by **JaddziaDax** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:49 am

because i can

I wont leave an opinion if I'm coordinator though.

and thats probably the same reason some people leave themselves opinions on their own videos.

AMV_4000 · Post by **AMV_4000** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:04 am

when you leave an op it allows you to see what other ops people have left... and if i op something of my own i wont give ti crappy scores (i wont give perfect 10s unless its a joke)... i dont op meps... i dont think people should leave all 10 ops just because they were a part of it.. i think they should leave an honest op.. just my opinion though..

Prodigi · Post by **Prodigi** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:03 am

if you do a track for a mep whats the problem with leaving an op? You're not opping your own stuff, you're opping the project as a whole. If you were a coordinator (as JDax pointed out) then this would obviously be different. You're bringing up a pointless argument. Just because you don't think it doesn't deserve it doesn't mean other people don't appreciate it. Stop being so uptight about the damn opinion scores, nobody pays much attention anyway.

Infinity Squared · Post by **Infinity Squared** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:37 am

Prodigi wrote:Stop being so uptight about the damn opinion scores, nobody pays much attention anyway.

And a lot of the times, that is exactly why participants in a MEP leave opinions, in that no one really cares... these people, by virtue of working together in their projects might have inevitably made friends with each other and all these opinions could just be friendly gestures or running jokes... certainly no real serious issue to be complaining about, imo.

Shinodude · Post by **Shinodude** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:57 am

if I were to op a mep I was in I would be honest XD

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:59 am

This is no different from making fake accounts to leave perfect tens or annonymous all-ones. Don't say nobody cares. If no one cared, we wouldn't have so many forum-regulars complaining about how inacurate and useless the op system is because people abuse it so often. It's the people abusing it that ruin it. Posts here complain about that all the time. Obviously, the people complaining and posting and asking to have the entire system scrapped, all because of a few abusers, do care.

The only reason to op your own video is to make it eligible for the most underappreciated vid list (where you must have at least one op to qualify). You don't need to op your own video to see the ops left - that's what the link on the 'edit my vids' page is for. If members of a group project can't see the ops they receive, that's something to post about in the site suggestions section. There's no reason for them to be 'forced' to op their own project in order to read what other people have said about it. And in the first example posted in this thread, all the ops were members of the project - if they wanted to know what each other posted, they could just ask each other, since they're all friends and members, anyway.

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But I can see where you'd want to op the other sections of a project. For something huge like animix, I'm sure your fellow project-members want to know what you thought of their segments, and it's perfectly fine to tell them. If the project segments are short, they probably aren't listed individually on everyone's profiles, so they only way to op them is to op the project itself. That's fine. And if the friends want to give newbie-blind or friend-biased all 10s, that's their choice. I just hope they're giving feedback and not random 'aren't we cool 10 10 10' posts for the sake of upping their project to make up for a lack of high scoring ops. There's no excuse for that, especially if you're doing it so openly it's obvious to the casual browser. At least go to the effort of making a fake account if you're going to boost stats the 'easy' way.

[Mike of the Desert] · Post by **[Mike of the Desert]** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:21 am

Arigatomina wrote:This is no different from making fake accounts to leave perfect tens or annonymous all-ones. Don't say nobody cares. If no one cared, we wouldn't have so many forum-regulars complaining about how inacurate and useless the op system is because people abuse it so often. It's the people abusing it that ruin it. Posts here complain about that all the time. Obviously, the people complaining and posting and asking to have the entire system scrapped, all because of a few abusers, do care.

The only reason to op your own video is to make it eligible for the most underappreciated vid list (where you must have at least one op to qualify). You don't need to op your own video to see the ops left - that's what the link on the 'edit my vids' page is for. If members of a group project can't see the ops they receive, that's something to post about in the site suggestions section. There's no reason for them to be 'forced' to op their own project in order to read what other people have said about it. And in the first example posted in this thread, all the ops were members of the project - if they wanted to know what each other posted, they could just ask each other, since they're all friends and members, anyway.

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But I can see where you'd want to op the other sections of a project. For something huge like animix, I'm sure your fellow project-members want to know what you thought of their segments, and it's perfectly fine to tell them. If the project segments are short, they probably aren't listed individually on everyone's profiles, so they only way to op them is to op the project itself. That's fine. And if the friends want to give newbie-blind or friend-biased all 10s, that's their choice. I just hope they're giving feedback and not random 'aren't we cool 10 10 10' posts for the sake of upping their project to make up for a lack of high scoring ops. There's no excuse for that, especially if you're doing it so openly it's obvious to the casual browser. At least go to the effort of making a fake account if you're going to boost stats the 'easy' way.

The "Stats" thing is just something completely wrong..

If I could, I'd delete it.

JaddziaDax · Post by **JaddziaDax** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 12:06 pm

what if i honestly felt that we are all cool and deserved all 10s? its my opinion and I am allowed to do it that way IF I WANT.

plus it doesnt raise MY avarages, the project coordinator is the one who recieves all credits for it... and if any one cares to look at their "My Opinions Recieved" page (who was on a project) you will see that you DONT need to leave an opinion in order to see a mep's ops.

I left an opinion on both of those because I WANTED to. No one forced me to, AND no one asked me to either. Its my opinion to give, and if i want to give all 10s and say how much we rock, then thats my place to do that. I never asked anyone else to leave such an opinion, if they wanted to leave all 10s thats nothing to do with me.

You know, its not like anyone tried to organize this, so I dont see how its "just as bad as creating multiple sns to boost your scores".

and yes, the complaint about abuse to the op system has gone on for a long time... the op system has been more than likely abused since the moment it was installed.

The only way to completely stop the abuse is to delete the system, but theres too many people obssesed with numbers and scores that its not likely to happen.

in my opinion all the feedback forms on this site are pretty screwed up, so I've just come to accept it, move on, and deal.

SSJVegita0609 · Post by **SSJVegita0609** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 1:10 pm

The problem is that the fact that you worked on the project generally implies and inherant bias. The fact that of three ops, all of them are all 10s (implying that these videos are flawless) is perfect evidence to support this.

Personally I don't give a crap, as AMV scores, though fun, are nothing to get your panties in a bunch over. Still, I don't see how leaving an all 10 op on a video you helped create is constructive in any possible way, shape, or form aside from tooting your own horns.

Jeez, that post made me sound like Beo