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AMV artist / AMV Creator

Post by OtakuForLife » Fri Jul 01, 2005 10:04 pm

Now I might be making a moutian outta of a molehill but I
seem to be seeing a certin devergence in style here.

AMV Artist: AMV maker who uses lyrics and scene matching to tell
the story. Who focuses less on the beats and uses them mostly for
cutting between scenes. Thinks mainly about motives and charcters
within the story, Less fx usally...

Keywords: Soul,Emotion,Feeling,Active Space

AMV Creator: AMV maker who uses the beat-timing as there
main mode of storytelling and thinks about the lyrics secondry
but makes sure they match.. Thinks about the phyical actions of
those charcters and how to best use them, More FX

Keywords: Impact, Flash,Timing,Wow Factor

I think I'm closer to AA>AC .... I'm wondering where most people fall.
I think most people fall in the middle but some tend to lean more
AC then AA or vise versa.

Hard to describe ,sorry if this is a confusing post.

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Post by jbone » Fri Jul 01, 2005 10:13 pm

Everyone who makes AMVs is an editor.

Virtually nobody who edits AMVs is an artist.

Many people who edit AMVs are designers.

"Creator" is a poor description, as nothing is "created." Every AMV is "edited." If something is "created" (such as custom 3D), the video is no longer mainstream AMV - it becomes something else.

"Keywords" are pointless. People who try to wedge themselves and others into categories can never be artists, and make terrible designers. Worse are the people who insist upon claiming artistry, but who don't even know what it is.
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Post by OtakuForLife » Fri Jul 01, 2005 10:34 pm

wow Jbone that was pretty deep man....
You have some good points there.

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Post by pen-pen2002 » Fri Jul 01, 2005 10:39 pm

You are describing a relatively obvious split among AMV editors (though the term is redundant, it is at least accurate) but I don't know about the labels (or the focus on lyrics.)

I certainly wouldn't consider myself an artist, though I fall squarely in your first category. I used to think of AMVs as art but I have moved to considering them as just, "very artistic". So very few editors can claim the title of artist (and most who deserve it probably wouldn't claim it.)
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Post by SuperFusion » Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:08 pm

AMVs are my visual art.

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Post by Qyot27 » Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:17 pm

pen-pen2002 wrote:You are describing a relatively obvious split among AMV editors (though the term is redundant, it is at least accurate) but I don't know about the labels (or the focus on lyrics.)
I would call the first category 'Atmospherics', rather than Artistry. The second would probably just be 'Precision Action'.

I wouldn't know where to class myself on that, exactly, as I've done both mindless random action videos and atmosphere-dependent drama, but I hold the atmospheric videos above the random action ones, despite my having edited more random action videos.
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Post by AMV_4000 » Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:19 pm

amvs are a hobby, all are full of their own art, wether its to tell a story or just random effects, there is still art in it. we are all creators of this art, we edit the art together, so we are all amv artists, amv editors, and amv creators!

each person with their own style and their own story to tell.

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Post by BasharOfTheAges » Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:19 pm

I'm an editor who employes the use of an artist because i have no photochoppery skills. Does that count?
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Post by Arigatomina » Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:20 pm

I'm starting to think this debate depends on motivation for watching amvs. Do you watch vids for the anime, or the music? Most people who prefer 'story' vids, and the ones who dislike effects, are the ones who actually want to see the anime footage being used. Those who watch for the music are more concerned with the editing and may not even notice if they see more 'effects' than anime in the music video.

Still a generalization, but it's something to think about. Not all the people who think 'less = more' when it comes to effects prefer 'story' over eyecandy. A lot of us actually find our 'eyecandy' in the anime scenes being used. It may not be a matter of 'substance' over 'stylish effects' - it could just be a question of what we consider an 'effective' effect. Making a character seem to move as if in response to the song is an effect most people have trouble pulling off. I'm as 'wowed' by that as I am by amazingly difficult effects.

I like story/emotional content whether it's an 'effect' vid or a 'simple' vid. The story doesn't differentiate between the two. To me, the difference between 'effect' and 'simple' is whether or not I can see all of the anime footage being used.

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Post by x_rex30 » Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:20 pm

AMV_4000 wrote:amvs are a hobby, all are full of their own art, wether its to tell a story or just random effects, there is still art in it. we are all creators of this art, we edit the art together, so we are all amv artists, amv editors, and amv creators!

each person with their own style and their own story to tell.
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