anime for an amv skill level thing

[bum]

ok, basicaly i just thought of this as i was walking home today wih my chiny new bogiebop phantom box set. how do anime rate in level of dificulty in which is required for someone to make a decent amv out of them (disregarding all factors eccept execution) ? i reckon eva and dbz sit on the "easy" leve. other than that i havent doen alot of thinking today, but you may have, so spit it out

[Kai Stromler]

how do anime rate in level of dificulty in which is required for someone to make a decent amv out of them (disregarding all factors eccept execution) ?

Those are English words on the screen, and the grammar parses correctly, but it's still not making sense.

Anime don't inherently have levels of difficulty any more than genres of music do. If you make a lackluster video with popular anime, it'll probably collect higher scores than something slightly more obscure, like Boogiepop, just due to the fan factor, but it won't require any more or less attention to detail to get to that level.

If you want to talk genre, then yes, it *is* difficult to cut across the grain. Editing Boogiepop into a comedy vid (or tougher, dance) would be much more of a challenge than doing some dark, slower, horror-drama. Eva and DBZ have respectively a lot of depth and mass and cover more genres more easily.

The other hurdle is cost of access. If you want to make a story video with a popular anime, you can leave a lot of loose ends hanging and count on the original plotlines being available to your viewers to fill in the gaps. You don't get this kind of leeway with less-known titles, so any story has to be totally explicit in the video and completely self-contained.

So there are challenges in certain areas. But per se, it's not more difficult to use any one anime than another for a given purpose.

--K

[Flint the Dwarf]

I think what he might've been talking about refers more to story and appeal. Some anime simply don't appeal to lots of people (older, grainier, and lower quality anime) as far as maybe the style it's drawn in or the acceptability and understandability of the story as well as the general likeability of the characters. You could also include strictly technical factors (i.e. Eva is very hard to work with getting good compression >_<). There are lots of factors involved as far as AMV material is concerned.

[bum]

what i was thinking was like, i could easily make a half decent eva amv covering almost any gendre, but in comparison, how dificult would it be to make a half decent amv that used something like lain ?

[Otohiko]

Yea, but it's too damn easy to make a DBZ or Eva AMV that doesn't appeal to lots of people...

If you ask me - naw. It's not the anime. It's what you do with it. If you're trying for an action vid, of course a bloomin' macho mecha series will be easier to take action out of than a romance-oriented shoujo anime; similarly, a romance anime might lend itself to a romantic AMV better.

But try to reverse the stakes, and suddenly the 'levels of difficulty' or 'inherent likelyhood' evaporate. Then try a weird music choice, too... and you got your work cut out for you

[Arigatomina]

what i was thinking was like, i could easily make a half decent eva amv covering almost any gendre, but in comparison, how dificult would it be to make a half decent amv that used something like lain ?

It depends on your definition of 'decent.' I've seen a number of videos for Lain that were executed well - but that means nothing since they were incomprehensible story vids - ones that made no sense to anyone who hasn't seen the anime.

As for DBZ or Eva - the level of 'easiness' inherent in the anime? Making it easier to make decent vids for these anime? If that were true, then at *least* half the DBZ vids would be decent - because it's inherently easier to make a decent vid from that anime. Since very few DBZ vids are even decent (let alone good), I'd say this isn't true. The same goes for Eva - there are some great ones, some decent ones, but a good majority are poor - meaning it isn't inherently easier to make a decent video.

Now, if your definition of decent equates to original, then sure - lesser used anime will be easier to make a decent vid out of, because even the most poorly executed video in the world will be original if it uses a rare anime. And those that focus on stories will be even more inclined to be original (or 'decent' according to that definition) simply because no one else has ever told the story in an amv.

My definition of decent means you take into account the other vids for the anime, the genre of the video you're making (story, cross-genre parodies, comedy, horror) and then compare concepts and execution. In this case - it looks like the more used anime are inherently harder to make a decent video for - because most are very bad. And rare anime are inherently harder to make decent story vids for - because most rely on having seen the anime. This was true for FLCL when those vids began and remains to be true to this day (every FLCL vid I've seen - not a single one made sense to me because I don't know the anime).

If there is any inherent ease or difficulty in an anime, then it's really inherent not in the anime - but in the viewers familiar or unfamiliar *with* that anime.