Are amvs fun??

[Mike of the Desert] · Post by **[Mike of the Desert]** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:25 am

Bauzi wrote:If you can´t deal with critic you are on the wrong place. This IS a hobby that wants perfection (or at least a lot people want it), because it´s fun and challenging and amvs go with the time and that means: Encoding, high quality.
On this site you´ll meet every kind of person and everybody has it´s on points and cores in critics. You just have to live with it and listen to what you like. YOU make the amv, not the others. YOU decide on wich part you want to have fun or where you want to lay more work on.

Of course such critics are not alright. To only point such points out is mean. Take a critic constructive or don´t even read it.

I'm quoting Bauzi here, it's a lot of time that I take opinions just for what there's wrote in it, and I honestly don't give any importance to scores, 6 or 10 it's the same for me if the comments aren't detailed, criticism is WHY this site exists.

It's true that actually.. Work on a video for 6 months, post it, and read comments that just talk about the encode without a fucking work about the amv itself it's frustrating, this is for sure.

Anyway I still find them fun, as I said years ago I'm taking this road for my file, so I can't really find them annoying.

I quote T.W.Knight though. |:

Chiikaboom · Post by **Chiikaboom** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:25 am

Is amv editing fun?
Yes, yes it is. If it wasnt, i wouldnt be editing, plain and simple.

Is dealing with visual quality elitist whores fun?
No.. not really.

JaddziaDax · Post by **JaddziaDax** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:54 am

The Wired Knight wrote:AMVs are just the slowest form of massochism ever.

haha
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as for the original topic: I have fun making remasters when I'm bored O.o
they will probably never go past the xvid/avi compression though O.o

and as for people only talking about the technical aspect its possible that they just don't have a reaction, or they don't want to insult someone's artistic vision or whatever...

I tend to stick to "technical aspects" when it comes to crit because those are the easiest "non-offensive" crits I can make... plus they are some of the easier things to "fix" in a video.
I also don't like to crit someone's "artistic vision" because I'm not sure where they are coming from, unless its something really off then I might say something.. (such as I don't think the song fit or whatever)

if the concept overwhelms me more than the crits I might comment on the concept instead... but its usually something short such as "interesting" or "funny" or whatever my "gut reaction" to the video was.

NOTE: this is how I take on Quick Comments and similar forms...

for opinions i usually explain all my scores and try to give a gut reaction in the opinion as well and attempt to be encouraging O.o

Paul Kievits · Post by **Paul Kievits** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:14 pm

People take AMV's way to seriously. Just enjoy what you make and what other people make.

Newsflash: Making AMV's will never be your career.

devilmaykickass · Post by **devilmaykickass** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:20 pm

Paul Kievits wrote:Newsflash: Making AMV's will never be your career.

And what does that have to do with the price of underaged whores in India?

If you enjoy something enough, you take it seriously. It's natural. I don't get why it's okay to take a sport, skating, or a fashion scene seriously, none of which will ever be the careers of their partakers except for a very small minority (same case with editing), but video editing is suddenly a second rate silly hobby that should be treated as a joke.

I mean I think there are editors who take themselves too seriously, but I think it's retarded to say you shouldn't take a hobby seriously merely because you won't make money off of it.

SarahtheBoring · Post by **SarahtheBoring** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:25 pm

devilmaykickass wrote:If you enjoy something enough, you take it seriously. It's natural.

For some people.

I have three major hobbies - writing, video editing, and sewing. I'm supposed to have three full-time jobs doing each of these, then?

Also, hey, it's great to be the world's best at something, but somebody has to hold the rest of you up. I doubt I'm going to be the world's best editor, writer, AND seamstress. So until then I'm gonna keep doing other people's paperwork to pay the rent. If that's okay with you.

BasharOfTheAges · Post by **BasharOfTheAges** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:33 pm

SarahtheBoring wrote:
devilmaykickass wrote:If you enjoy something enough, you take it seriously. It's natural.
For some people.

For Otaku by the very definition of the word (the correct one, not the Americanized one). Or, you know, sports fans, gamers, model train people, musicians, armature writers, voulenteers, etc. etc. etc.....

SarahtheBoring · Post by **SarahtheBoring** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:01 pm

BasharOfTheAges wrote:
SarahtheBoring wrote:
devilmaykickass wrote:If you enjoy something enough, you take it seriously. It's natural.
For some people.
For Otaku by the very definition of the word (the correct one, not the Americanized one). Or, you know, sports fans, gamers, model train people, musicians, armature writers, voulenteers, etc. etc. etc.....

No... that's the opposite of what he was saying, I think. He said that if you enjoy something, you MUST want to become a professional. That's the ONLY natural progression. Amateur anythings aren't taking it seriously enough. That cuts out amateur writers, volunteers, and sports fans (if they like it, they MUST become professional athletes). Anyone who isn't going to devote their entire lives and every breathing moment to their [whatever] isn't good enough.

Musicians and professional gamers, OK. There are probably professional model train people out there somewhere, who design tracks or gear for other people. So that would fit.

But I don't know that EVERY otaku wants to make anime professionally. Many? Maybe even most? But every, I don't know. Even in the housebound Japanese sense.

*shrugs* I don't know; maybe AMV editors are like that. I wouldn't know.

BasharOfTheAges · Post by **BasharOfTheAges** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:54 pm

um... i never saw the word professional show up anywhere in his post... And a professional is someone that does something for money - your desire of being "really good" or "giving it your all" doesn't enter into it.

Also, "otaku" has little to do with anime - it boils down to an overly obsessive personality type commonly linked with introversion and collection.

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:51 am

@Sarah: Straw man.

devilmaykickass wrote:... but I think it's retarded to say you shouldn't take a hobby seriously merely because you won't make money off of it.

Here and in the second paragraph, he said that you can take it seriously even if you know you'll never be a professional.

And he never said that anyone *must* take it seriously or that anyone wasn't taking it seriously enough; I don't think he even implied it. What he's saying is it's *okay* to take it seriously, which people seem to forget sometimes.