What's your opping "style"?

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Post by trythil » Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:28 am

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I then actually attempt to write sensical comments. You know, the stuff that actually matters.

I haven't done this in something like two years, though, so I'm not sure if I should even be posting in this thread.

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Re: What's your opping "style"?

Post by FoxJones » Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:44 am

inthesto wrote:How do your ops work?
Long rants without any sense and always over 2 months late



...what I do is I simply tell in good and bad sections what I liked and what I didn't.. with time (1:46) included if needed.
In general section I have built a habit of telling how and why the score was what it was in every aspect.



..and Nightowl, since you might read this thread, MAKE MORE AMVS DAMMIT!
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Post by Otohiko » Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:13 pm

My 'full' opping style, which I actually have not used in well over a year (due to lack of interest, and I would really only pull it out when I felt such detail was required or requested), would be as follows:

First, the good and the bad are used for general remarks on the good/bad points of the video in brief. Or not brief. The General, ironically, is where I would get into specifics.

I always start my ops with my first positive impression in "the Good". Even if my first impression was not positive, I'll name the first positive one of it that I had - I'm yet to see a video where I didn't see anything positive.

In the General, the big sections I rarely pull out nowadays would be the timing breakdown (a scene-by-scene analysis, essentially) and a marking breakdown (justifying each of the marks I gave in all categories). Then I would finish up the op with 1) a one-sentence summary of what I thought of the vid; and 2) some words of encouragement or advice to the author on future work.

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Lately though, I've been writing shorter ops which use smaller variations of this style, generally omitting the timing and mark breakdowns, or only including short traces of them in "good" and "bad".
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Post by [Mike of the Desert] » Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:25 pm

Same As Ultima
Well, for starters, my opinions tend to run around 1000 words. Then, I do it like this:

"Good Points:
See General Comments.

Bad Points:
See General Comments.

General Comments:
Before I begin, I'd like to make the following comments, which IN NO WAY impact on your scores (except Re-viewable). 1. <some comment about the anime or game - whether I like it or not.> 2. <some comment about the song - whether I like it or not.> 3. Anyway, onto the review!

Originality - score #
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- comments on use (or overuse) of anime, song, concept


Capture/Output Quality - # -
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comments

Sound Quality - #
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- comments

Action/Editing Sync -
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# - my most important category. I divide it into mood sync and beat sync. So, even if one half of the equation was crap, I may still score decently if I think the other half was good.

Lip Sync - #
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- comments, if it's even in the video. If so, I drop points for extra or not enough mouth movements. Also, I drop points for mouth movements if they are not synched to anything in a video with lip. If there is no lip in the video, I could care less if the mouths are moving.

Digital Effects - # -
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comments (if they're even in the video)

Effort - #
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- a category I hate, because no one really knows how much effort another put in. I usually look to the video description for this score. If they seemed excited about the idea and the product was halfway decent, I usually give a good score.

Overall - #
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- my general idea of the video. Rehash of the few improvements I think it could use and what was done well.

Re-viewable - #
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- an eight here is a ten in any other category for me. The comments that I make in the beginning of the opinion sometimes come into play here also.

<paragraph detailing my thoughts on the person as a creator - where I think he/she is going, if he/she seems to be improving. A general thought on the video. Sometimes, a funny comment about how jealous I am of his/her great work or idea.> Anyway...

As always, Farewell, Good Luck, and Happy AMV-ing!

PS: <sometimes a comment on the filesize, or a random, amusing comment>"
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Post by godix » Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:32 pm

JaddziaDax wrote:you know you can cut and paste :D it will work on your usefulness score too!
I'm already on the most useful list, slightly above you actually. I don't like cutting and pasting though, I prefer to make original insults for the video rather than relying on stock insults.
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Post by JaddziaDax » Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:19 pm

yea i know I've seen your name there lol... i only do it to friends cause well i am too lazy to leave them real opinions... hahaha..

but yea, that must be fun.... lol

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Post by Arigatomina » Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:01 pm

I've gone through a few variations. Since my last 'vacation' from writing ops I've started a new variation that's like this -

Good:
-general things I liked

-my favorite scenes, editing tricks/effects/scene choices I liked, following the order in which they appear with time stamps where possible (for wmvs I usually go "about 1:32" and "around 1:51" since I can't pause precisely)

Bad:
-general bad things that stood out, technical issues, biases I may have against the source material and/or theme

-scenes I didn't like, editing errors that looked bad, following the order of the video with time stamps where possible

General:

General Breakdown:
Originality:
-Have I seen it before? Why the combination, theme, editing approach, style, is or is not 'new' to me. What makes it stand out (there's always something since no two editors are exactly alike)

Capture Quality:
-what's wrong, where it looks worst, and how you can fix it
and/or
-what's great, why I think it's great (my familiarity/unfamiliarity with the source), and how droolingly happy I am with the pretty footage

Sound Quality:
-Any fuzz or pops or obvious problems? No? Then "No complaints here". Yes? Then here's how you can fix it.

Action/Editing Sync:
Lip/Effects:
Effort:
Reviewable:
-general comments on why the score is what it is, what would have made the score higher, and why the score isn't lower (usually with a reference to the 'good' and 'bad' details mentioned above)

Overall:
-"Things to improve?" A brief recap of the biggest problems and suggestions on how to fix them.
and/or
-a quick recap of why the vid is perfect in every way and "couldn't be better"

"/" - Some brief comment particular to the vid, usually given only to vids I'm reviewing for 'free op' threads, in response to what the person posted when he asked for feedback. This section doesn't exist for general reviews.

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