Which is worse? Non-anime or plaigerism.

Nightowl · Post by **Nightowl** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 3:38 pm

I loved THIS back when it came out in 2001. I'm glad it was never taken care of.

At least the direct link was taken down... I think it's because I switched my host, and never put the video back up...

-N

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 4:16 pm

Corran Productions wrote:In fact this thread is the only time I've seen a plaigerism complaint end up being taken off local.
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/v ... 869#451869

They were only deleted because Angel asked them to be - it was left entirely up to her. If she hadn't, the vids would still be there.

Kalium · Post by **Kalium** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 4:24 pm

Arigatomyna wrote:
Corran Productions wrote:In fact this thread is the only time I've seen a plaigerism complaint end up being taken off local.
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/v ... 869#451869
They were only deleted because Angel asked them to be - it was left entirely up to her. If she hadn't, the vids would still be there.

Am I the only one who finds that slightly abhorrent?

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 4:35 pm

If people can watch a video and decide (from opinion alone - no facts) that it is too violent or has too much 'sexual' nudity, then people can watch two vids and decide if one is plagiarism. It's the same 'opinion-based' decision.

This isn't like saying "I can't tell if it's plagiarism because it isn't as clearcut as the non-anime rule". Because the 'non explicite violence' rule is enforced all the time - and vids are deleted off the local server based entirely off the opinion of the mod/admin/owner viewing it. If they can make an opinion of the content when it comes to violence, how is it different to make an opinon of the content when it comes to identical cuts and clips, sometimes entirely identical videos?

If one person has the same video hosted twice, he gets one deleted - all it takes is a mod/admin to watch the two and decide for himself if they're similar enough to be duplicates. How is judging plagiarized videos any different?

I don't think it is - it's just going back to the 'theft' concept and 'two evils' idea. But again, we punish people for 'stealing' when it comes to downloaded footage, bootlegs, and warez on the forum - so getting them for stealing on the local server should be just as easy to judge and prevent.

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:31 pm

Nightowl wrote:I loved THIS back when it came out in 2001. I'm glad it was never taken care of.

I find it quite amusing that that person's "last login" is only two minutes after his/her "member since"...

Nightowl · Post by **Nightowl** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:37 pm

Scintilla wrote:I find it quite amusing that that person's "last login" is only two minutes after his/her "member since"...

Heh, yeah, really... maybe he/she was just a fan who was trying to prove his/her fandom... somehow... I guess...

-N

koronoru · Post by **koronoru** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 3:58 pm

BrsrkEva wrote:Posted in a topic in another section of the forum, someone pointed out if the Music and Anime rules, the ones about no duplicate songs and animes used (for isntance: Two videos that use DBZ and any given song by Linkin Park). If those were enforced, there would definately be no plagerism, but at the same time, the video catalog gets shot to hell. Personally, I think that's one of those floating rules that might need second look.

I haven't seen the other thread (anyone want to point me at it?) but if you're suggesting a rule that no two videos can have the same combination of song and anime, I'm strongly against that. It would mean that as soon as some idiot drags together a few clips and slaps a song on it, that combination is forever closed to anyone else. Popular music and popular anime would be stuck with videos that sucked and could never be replaced by better ones. There would be a "gold rush" to use the obvious or popular combinations before someone else did. It would also be an insult to all our creativity - if anyone who combines Perfect Blue with "Red" by Treble Charger is plagiarizing my video with that combination, that sounds like saying that choosing the music/anime combination was the only creative thing I did in making the video.

Brsrk · Post by **Brsrk** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 9:07 pm

koronoru wrote:
BrsrkEva wrote:Posted in a topic in another section of the forum, someone pointed out if the Music and Anime rules, the ones about no duplicate songs and animes used (for isntance: Two videos that use DBZ and any given song by Linkin Park). If those were enforced, there would definately be no plagerism, but at the same time, the video catalog gets shot to hell. Personally, I think that's one of those floating rules that might need second look.
I haven't seen the other thread (anyone want to point me at it?) but if you're suggesting a rule that no two videos can have the same combination of song and anime, I'm strongly against that. It would mean that as soon as some idiot drags together a few clips and slaps a song on it, that combination is forever closed to anyone else. Popular music and popular anime would be stuck with videos that sucked and could never be replaced by better ones. There would be a "gold rush" to use the obvious or popular combinations before someone else did. It would also be an insult to all our creativity - if anyone who combines Perfect Blue with "Red" by Treble Charger is plagiarizing my video with that combination, that sounds like saying that choosing the music/anime combination was the only creative thing I did in making the video.

I never said I was for it or against it. I was pointing out the topic of that thread and giving a basic overview of what it said.

Char the second · Post by **Char the second** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 9:21 pm

wow

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