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Dark Kamui
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Post by Dark Kamui » Mon Aug 12, 2002 11:50 pm

Wow, Dark Kamui, you really don't hide your lack of coherent thought, do you?
Of course not. Why should I think like everyone else? Have I no right to think like I want as an individual?
If something's not licensed for distribution, it doesn't mean that anyone who wants to can distribute it freely at their whim. It's still someone's property.
You're right. Perhaps we should not distrubute things that do not belong to us, like fansubs. If fansubs had never been distributed in the early days via VHS or whatever means the general public wouldn't have taken much interest... If the general public had not taken any interest then probably licensing companys would have never taken any interest neither for a lack of future costumer base.

If so, maybe general distribution in the USA of anime would been delayed or non-existant. Possibly, leaving the anime fanbase to just a few "open-minded" people that decided to import these shows from Japan and keep it to themselfs, cause they had spent their hard earned money or time in these things that are so RARE and UNIQUE.

You're absolutely right jbone. People should have listened too in the early days of VCRs, and stop recording propietary TV shows or movies to later distribute to their friends or family illegally. Hollywood should have won at the courts and banned all existing VCRs, because the industry would be destroyed by illegal distribution. After all, we so know that actors and film makers are honest, hard working people that are starving to death for lack of dinning at a place that doesn't charge your week's salary for an appetizer, jbone.

Same as with the music industry... But I'm not gonna get on that.
Ever hear of licensing costs? Or distribution costs? Or stores paying their employees? Or voice actors paying for food?
Ever heard of radical advertisement? Supply and demand? Who needs dubbs? They're either horrible, just plain annoying, and in many cases fail to deliver the emotion or meaning the jappannese creators intended in the first place.
If by "better" you mean a more literal translation, then possibly. But officially-released anime tends to have translations which are easier to understand while reading, and which can make more sense to their American audience. Are official translations perfect? No. But the companies are at least trying to improve their translations from release to release, and you know with an official release that you won't get broken, nonsensical English - unlike some fan-subbed translations and some import DVDs.
I once had Manga's release of X1999 in my hands and I saw the so called rumored HORROR of a poor "official" release: Dubbed (Very, very BAD dub), no subtitles nor JAP soundtrack, SVHSish quality, and no menus or extras. Am I content that I "evaluated" the product before a purchase? HELL YES.
And from then on I'd rather relly on reviews or "rips" from official DVDs prior to a real purchase.
Well, that's just your opinion. And it's your opinion because you're closed-minded, have no interest or comprehension of what's reasonable, and are so self-centered that you desire the entire industry to pander to your own personal desires.
But of course I want them to. If they expect ME to pay hard-cash for their product and enforce their rights to titles previously distributed at people's whims for FREE, then, by all means it is MY RIGHT as costumer to demand excellent quality, service, or even boycott products if I'm dissapointed.

Sigh. Thanks for the laugh, it's always welcome.
No problem, you crack a few good ones yourself.
I look forward to your well-thought-out, intelligent, sensible response. (*chuckle*)
There's really nothing much to think about when it's just plain, common sense.

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Post by ZeWrestler » Tue Aug 13, 2002 5:53 am

does anyone else wounder how much bandwidth that site uses a day??
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Post by Dark Kamui » Tue Aug 13, 2002 7:19 am

A T3 commercial setup could probably eat up $60,000+ per year. Bandwith usage depends on how you optimize the site's contents. SOMEHOW site owners think it's more reliable to stream video LIVE constanly without any download to disk options (because they don't even want you to have the trailers for free) given the fact that having users download stuff only once instead of constanly could SAVE them $$$ in bandwith. -_-

Of course there's allways appys like "ASF Recorder", but quality-wise speaking, everyone should be using Divx by now. -_-

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DOES NO ONE KNOW HOW TO ANSWER A QUESTION?!!!!!!!!

Post by LordPhoenix » Sat Nov 23, 2002 2:54 am

I mean, comon, you all talk about the moral and the ifs and buts, but who really gives a shit? I sure as hell don't. I'll bet that every AMV made by you was made unlawfully. I mean, stealing clips from dvd's, downloads what few anime trailers there are and puttin them in vids isn't really obaying the law. I sure as hell don't when I make my AMV's. I mean, obay the law. Anyway, to answer the poor saps question, yest it is against the law but we all do it and we're not in jail (well, most of us aren't). Just do it, but try not to take too much from one videos, that always works for me. I try to limit it to 15 secs per minute, and thats way too much. Heheh, this place is full of wierdos (me included) and the guy typein mutha fucka, all that shows is that you lack brain content. If you do cuss, at least learn how to and save me the imbarressment of being in the same group as you. Later.

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Post by Rozard » Sun Nov 24, 2002 8:52 pm

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gripe gripe gripe

Post by EarthCurrent » Sun Nov 24, 2002 10:49 pm

Dark Kamui wrote:Bah... Me? I download EVERYTHING for a mirriad of reasons like:

5. Anime Licensing companies are indeed GREEDY and overprice anime. Most HK DVDs releases can have an entire series in 2-3 DVDs for $10-30 while US licensing companies will charge $20-30 for 2, 3, or 4 episode volumes. Do the math.
HK/Taiwanese anime DVDs are p-i-r-a-t-e-d. The only over head cost that these guys incur is the cost of their computer, DVD ripper and DVD burners. None of the money these guys makes goes to the original creators of the anime so of course they don't have to charge much.
If I bust into somebody's house and steal a bunch of shit from them I'm not going to sell any of it for face value, and I'm not going to move through reputable dealers, and really, I don't care so long as I make some money, I stole it for quick cash. DVD pirates are the same way, they sell crap to dumb ass consumers too "poor" to buy legitimately licensed copies, rake in the dough, and when the cops start to sniff around they pick up, move, and change their companies name. And you bitch about high costs when you support criminals whose activities cut into the profits of legitimate companies? And really, if a company is loosing sales due to people acquiring illegal sources, then of course costs are going to be higher in order to make up for these lost sales. Really, you seem to have no understanding of how business works in the real world. Take a God damn econ course before you bother talking about how "Greedy" Anime companies are :evil:

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Post by jonmartensen » Sun Nov 24, 2002 11:02 pm

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sorry earthcurrent, not to dis you but...

please stop. everyone.
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Post by Lyrs » Mon Nov 25, 2002 9:04 am

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