How much 'black outline' around a character?

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Re: How much 'black outline' around a character?

Post by Otohiko » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:44 am

HalOfBorg wrote:Maybe I'll split it and go with the middle. Of course I'll have to spend time and decide on each scene.
Actually I think the middle one is the one I like least of the three. Right > left > middle, if you ask me :P
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Re: How much 'black outline' around a character?

Post by Fall_Child42 » Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:26 pm

One of the things you could try is going with the one in the middle, but instead of black use a lighter grey.

Black is a very eye catching colour if you change it so it's less bold it may clean up the edges yet still not be as distracting.
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Re: How much 'black outline' around a character?

Post by HalOfBorg » Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:49 pm

Fall_Child42 wrote:One of the things you could try is going with the one in the middle, but instead of black use a lighter grey.

Black is a very eye catching colour if you change it so it's less bold it may clean up the edges yet still not be as distracting.
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Re: How much 'black outline' around a character?

Post by blabbler » Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:50 pm

Fall_Child42 wrote:One of the things you could try is going with the one in the middle, but instead of black use a lighter grey.

Black is a very eye catching colour if you change it so it's less bold it may clean up the edges yet still not be as distracting.
it's not the colour, it's the contrast that catches your eye.

match the black levels in the foreground and background AND the stroke, this will make it sit better in the image. if you look at the individual colour channels it'll help to see where the problems are (look at the garbage outside your stroke evident in the blue channel, there's probably a problem with the way you're creating your mattes). also the light direction is wrong, it might look a little more natural if you flip the foreground or background.
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Re: How much 'black outline' around a character?

Post by Vivaldi » Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:51 pm

CrackTheSky wrote:Right > all
:? That hurt my brain. It should be "all < Right"
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Re: How much 'black outline' around a character?

Post by Fall_Child42 » Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:07 pm

blabbler wrote:
Fall_Child42 wrote:One of the things you could try is going with the one in the middle, but instead of black use a lighter grey.

Black is a very eye catching colour if you change it so it's less bold it may clean up the edges yet still not be as distracting.
it's not the colour, it's the contrast that catches your eye.

match the black levels in the foreground and background AND the stroke, this will make it sit better in the image. if you look at the individual colour channels it'll help to see where the problems are (look at the garbage outside your stroke evident in the blue channel, there's probably a problem with the way you're creating your mattes). also the light direction is wrong, it might look a little more natural if you flip the foreground or background.
Sure let's go with that.
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Re: How much 'black outline' around a character?

Post by HalOfBorg » Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:46 pm

blabbler wrote:it's not the colour, it's the contrast that catches your eye.
match the black levels in the foreground and background AND the stroke, this will make it sit better in the image. if you look at the individual colour channels it'll help to see where the problems are (look at the garbage outside your stroke evident in the blue channel, there's probably a problem with the way you're creating your mattes). also the light direction is wrong, it might look a little more natural if you flip the foreground or background.
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Re: How much 'black outline' around a character?

Post by HalOfBorg » Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:55 pm

blabbler wrote:it's not the colour, it's the contrast that catches your eye
match the black levels in the foreground and background AND the stroke, this will make it sit better in the image.
Also - I don't think I WANT the foreground characters to match the background ones perfectly - foreground is 'live', background is on a TV screen.
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Re: How much 'black outline' around a character?

Post by Knowname » Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:57 pm

see this is the kind of thing I don't bother with... except to bother other ppl with. They all look the same.
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Re: How much 'black outline' around a character?

Post by HalOfBorg » Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:28 pm

I'm am at the point where I shouldn't have even asked! :lol: :lol:
Left, center, right, all of em, different color, match the background! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Just gonna have to go with whatever I like, and let it go at that.

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