Katie is correct, I need Nighttime scenes, I need to make comparisons to get the best output. Why would I need to do that you ask? Just because I'm odd that way.JaddziaDax wrote:hes not looking necessairly for "evil" or scarry stuff... just i guess "physically dark" as in low light... he would like to clean up in the right way so people can see the footage rather than random blobs...
so i suppose hes hoping for some examples of that... (which is why he said nighttime footage and not "dark" footage")
atleast this is what i gather from skype convos with him
AMVs with mostly nighttime scenes?
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S' what I thought ;p Thanks Jadz ;p. I just use the default vdub stuff (and doki's smoother iq plugin) and I'm too simple to use avisinth at all so... don't be afrid to experiment. But know it might take ALOT of processing time -_- Might be time to buy that extra ram and so on, it'll save you ALOT of time if you choose a trial and error process like I do.
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Thank you, Knowname! My main issue is I'm afraid I'll be losing too much background detail and then I'd be washing out the forground by adding too much contrast and brightness. That's why I need something similar to nighttime scenes so I can see how well the background and forground comes out and try to match. So that's why I'm asking for lots of examples.Knowname wrote:S' what I thought ;p Thanks Jadz ;p. I just use the default vdub stuff (and doki's smoother iq plugin) and I'm too simple to use avisinth at all so... don't be afrid to experiment. But know it might take ALOT of processing time -_- Might be time to buy that extra ram and so on, it'll save you ALOT of time if you choose a trial and error process like I do.
I will look into your suggestion and see how the Doki Smoother plugin works. I appreciate the help.
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lol I just this morning thought (on a scene made up of like 80% black background) I might as well just key out this black and set up a black video for the background. The blacks on this DVD are really bad.ayanefan wrote:Thank you, Knowname! My main issue is I'm afraid I'll be losing too much background detail and then I'd be washing out the forground by adding too much contrast and brightness. That's why I need something similar to nighttime scenes so I can see how well the background and forground comes out and try to match. So that's why I'm asking for lots of examples.Knowname wrote:S' what I thought ;p Thanks Jadz ;p. I just use the default vdub stuff (and doki's smoother iq plugin) and I'm too simple to use avisinth at all so... don't be afrid to experiment. But know it might take ALOT of processing time -_- Might be time to buy that extra ram and so on, it'll save you ALOT of time if you choose a trial and error process like I do.
I will look into your suggestion and see how the Doki Smoother plugin works. I appreciate the help.
You may want to do something similar with yours if you get the chance (I wouldn't recomend it if there's ANY action in the scene of course...).
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like possibly after you clean it you might re-put it through your editor replaceing the background (like how some ppl clean their clips... I clean my final so I don't know, but this may be obvious to you -_-). Than you get the best of both worlds!
I put my video through my Adobe Premeire Pro 2x. found out it makes it slightly smoother and shaves off a little size anyway ;p. Lol. I dunno, expirament! I'm sure it made the colors slightly more dull, but even in a direct vdub comparison I couldn't tell... it IS your video.
I put my video through my Adobe Premeire Pro 2x. found out it makes it slightly smoother and shaves off a little size anyway ;p. Lol. I dunno, expirament! I'm sure it made the colors slightly more dull, but even in a direct vdub comparison I couldn't tell... it IS your video.
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Well, I've always recommended that two specific videos of mine be viewed in a dark room with all the lights turned off because they're full of night scenes: Through A Glass Darkly and Light And Life, Death And Darkness. I also recommend Lament For The Tennyo which did have some stuff taking place during the day, but was mostly made up of night scenes. (In the Ayashi No Ceres anime itself, even most of the daytime scenes were on rainy days, or took place in dark cellars, or had lots of artificial lighting but were still really noirish, etc.)
You've probably already got a song picked out, but if not, I should mention that a specific set of songs go really well with night scenes. Obviously, any song that talks about the night or has a night-time theme to it (such as "Self Control" by Laura Brannigan) is likely to be a good fit, but even some songs that aren't so obviously about the night (such as "Enjoy The Silence" by Depeche Mode) can have the right kind of "feel" for an AMV full of night scenes. I think it has to do with a certain tone to the singer's voice that suggests isolation or concealment (both common themes in love songs and very closely associated with the intimacy and solitude of the night) and the heavy use of minor keys on the instruments played.
Obviously to be avoided are: morning songs, even the depressing ones ("Manic Monday" by the Bangles) and bright, happy music ("Top Of The World" by the Carpenters) that suggests a bright daylight atmosphere. To your advantage, these are very limited categories indeed. Apparently, most singers would rather sing about the gals they're dating tonight, the guys who just dumped them tonight, or how they're feeling so depressed that life will be filled with utter darkness for them from now on.
Heck, I ought to do an AMV set to a daytime song just to shake things up.
You've probably already got a song picked out, but if not, I should mention that a specific set of songs go really well with night scenes. Obviously, any song that talks about the night or has a night-time theme to it (such as "Self Control" by Laura Brannigan) is likely to be a good fit, but even some songs that aren't so obviously about the night (such as "Enjoy The Silence" by Depeche Mode) can have the right kind of "feel" for an AMV full of night scenes. I think it has to do with a certain tone to the singer's voice that suggests isolation or concealment (both common themes in love songs and very closely associated with the intimacy and solitude of the night) and the heavy use of minor keys on the instruments played.
Obviously to be avoided are: morning songs, even the depressing ones ("Manic Monday" by the Bangles) and bright, happy music ("Top Of The World" by the Carpenters) that suggests a bright daylight atmosphere. To your advantage, these are very limited categories indeed. Apparently, most singers would rather sing about the gals they're dating tonight, the guys who just dumped them tonight, or how they're feeling so depressed that life will be filled with utter darkness for them from now on.
Heck, I ought to do an AMV set to a daytime song just to shake things up.
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