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Post by Moonlight Soldier » Tue Jun 01, 2004 9:28 pm

Better question, HOW DO I FIX IT?

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Tell me :cry:

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Post by Zarxrax » Tue Jun 01, 2004 10:28 pm

Interestingly enough, with ryans help I discovered that the mpeg decoder in media player classic sucks ass :roll:

So um, mpeg uses severely less cpu than xvid...

But still, it would often take a file much larger than 100mb to get a decent quality mpeg video. All depends on how ya wanna slice it, quality/filesize or a itsy bit more compatability.
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Post by Zarxrax » Tue Jun 01, 2004 10:51 pm

I take that back, Media Player Classics built in mpeg decider doesnt suck at all. In fact I think it might be faster than the default MS decoder. The rendering mode was what was slowing down my mpeg play back.
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Post by Arigatomina » Wed Jun 02, 2004 7:07 am

Moonlight Soldier wrote:Better question, HOW DO I FIX IT?

*insert cute puss n boots kitty*

Tell me :cry:
If you're using Windows Media Player, then treat it the way you would any editing program - it's a memory-eating monster, and with xvid it eats even more because it lags and falls all over itself (yes, even mine tends to snag on xvid if I watch too much at once). Best safeguards I've found are to rest the computer often - any time it really skips nasitly, defrag if it locks up (if you have an xvid file on loop in wmp and it stays caught at the end instead of looping back to the beginning), and generally just try to close as much as you can aside from windows media player. It takes up a nice mess of memory anyway, so when you add in something that from all apearances was *made* to skip and jump and lurch about like it's drunk, yeah, you'll get some playback issues. I'd sooner shoot my computer than try and play an avi file on my old 6gig computer - poor dear barey had the memory to play mpgs and wmvs at normal size, forget playing an xvid fullscreened - whether it was a high quality *or* low quality, it was the format itself that would lock the entire computer up and it wasn't for lack of the proper decoder.

And since we are talking about codecs you download, videos that are downloaded, there's no need to argue about whether xvid or mpg is 'inherently' worse at high quality. We're not talking about 200mb mpgs or 160mb xvids, we're talking about your average video - under 100mbs, 60 average if mpg, 45 average if xvid, and how those 'normal/typical' videos play in comparison on slower computers. In this case, I can't see how anyone would say mpgs don't play better on average, at least for the people using wmp on less that excellent computers.

I do play large files - 1.6 gigs for huffyuv, 300mb for mpg (720x480), 160mb for xvid (640x480), but it's all the same - the mpg plays better than the xvid, the xvid plays worse than the huffyuv (figure that one out, it's beyond me explaining why), and any xvid file on loop is going to lag when it's supposed to be repeating unless I just turned on the computer and it's at full speed. That's a 2.133ghz with 512mb of ddr sdram memory (with up to 64mb shared video memory). Not a shabby computer, I think, but it doesn't matter. Mpgs just play better. Even an uncompressed video has less snags than xvid. That's using wmp 9, though - not classic.

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Post by Maver » Wed Jun 02, 2004 7:28 am

<rant>

my prob is that everyone (well mostly the newbies) are using WMV which takes more cpu power the xvid! anyway you said you ahve a 450mhz? man thats fast you can play dvds on those things, but if you know a few things about computers out there like i do you can get a 350mhz comp like mine to play dvds xvid divx wmv all smooth like, all you need to do is know wat your looking for. first try this:

www.geexbox.org

download the .97 iso and burn it (i hope you can do that ;) )
if video is still a little jumpy try this:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfile ... _id=116092

scroll down the the section that sayd MoviX (not the emovix or movix2) and then burn that ISO that will let you watch anime epds and all kinds of stuff, heck i've watch naruto 0-80 on that comp with no skipping smooth video.

once you have the iso put it in your computer drive and reboot your computer. if you come back up under windows xp then you need to
<tech>
go into the bios and change the boot list so that cd rom drive comes before you hard drive
</tech>
it isn't that hard to do just hit delete / F2 (which every one the bios use) look in the bios for a boot list then when your there pess + or watever buttion it tells you to move it up the list the boot order should be somthing like
Floppy
CD-ROM
HD (hard drive)


well i

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Post by Voices_Of_Ryan » Wed Jun 02, 2004 8:41 am

Maver wrote:<rant>

my prob is that everyone (well mostly the newbies) are using WMV which takes more cpu power the xvid! anyway you said you ahve a 450mhz? man thats fast you can play dvds on those things, but if you know a few things about computers out there like i do you can get a 350mhz comp like mine to play dvds xvid divx wmv all smooth like, all you need to do is know wat your looking for. first try this:

www.geexbox.org

download the .97 iso and burn it (i hope you can do that ;) )
if video is still a little jumpy try this:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfile ... _id=116092

scroll down the the section that sayd MoviX (not the emovix or movix2) and then burn that ISO that will let you watch anime epds and all kinds of stuff, heck i've watch naruto 0-80 on that comp with no skipping smooth video.

once you have the iso put it in your computer drive and reboot your computer. if you come back up under windows xp then you need to
<tech>
go into the bios and change the boot list so that cd rom drive comes before you hard drive
</tech>
it isn't that hard to do just hit delete / F2 (which every one the bios use) look in the bios for a boot list then when your there pess + or watever buttion it tells you to move it up the list the boot order should be somthing like
Floppy
CD-ROM
HD (hard drive)


well i

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And if you just raised my hopes for nothing... I'm gonna be at your house soon -_-;;.
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Post by Iamshadowkiller » Wed Jun 02, 2004 9:50 am

it's true, he'll go to your house , I've seen him do it... :shock:



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Post by Maver » Fri Jun 04, 2004 11:00 am

lol it works for me, geexbox tends to be real pro with what they do but its only for systems above a certan speed really (urs mite be that speed) as for movix it got much better hardware detection/support so that one you'll probly have the best luck with.

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Post by )v(ajin Koji » Fri Jun 04, 2004 11:02 am

Could someone explain how to use it in the simplest terms possible?
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Post by Pyle » Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:48 pm

Maver wrote:<rant>
anyway you said you ahve a 450mhz? man thats fast you can play dvds on those things, but if you know a few things about computers out there like i do you can get a 350mhz comp like mine to play dvds xvid divx wmv all smooth like
:roll:

Don't know if I'm wrong here, but if you knew something about computers, you would realize that is incredibly slow. I got 2.6ghz on my cpu and it still barely runs the AMV @_@.

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