Isn't the star rating system...redundant?

[Phade]

Hey,

So..phade.. while I totally agree with you on the star system idea, ...whats the point if the star rating isn't listed with the video information? The star rating can only be viewed through a members profile? I don't EVER access videos like that. =/

The star average information IS listed with the video information. If you are a donator, you can see the star average and star count on the Super Search results. You can even sort by star average so that "good" videos are listed first. Donators also have the videos they have downloaded already highlighted in the top star scale list so that they can see overall videos that are new to them.

Phade.

[Castor Troy]

A) Until recently I had never realized how useless some reviews are. Looking at the ops on various videos I've seen things like totally pointless ascii art, leaving a review that says in it's entirety 'WTF?', and other similar things that don't actually tell anyone anything. It took me awhile to pick up on the fact that it's entirely possible to have 10 ops without a single one of them actually saying anything worthwhile.

B) Unless you're a very popular creator or you beg then you probably aren't getting many ops. Combine this with A and most videos don't have any real feedback to the creator on how people like it.

C) Unsolicited ops tend to be the extremes, either people loved the video or they hated it. Either way they had to have an extreme reaction to take time to write an op (ever wonder why the average op is over 8 when on a ten point scale an expected average would be roughly 5?) The star rating gives you an average of all the viewers impressions rather than just the extremes.

I get the feeling the reason the same people win the VCA year after year is more because of favoritism then real skill.

But don't get me wrong. I'd be the first to say that Koop, AD, Fluxmeister, and dokidoki are damn good creators. All I'm saying is that there is plenty more deserving creators out there as well, just that nobody ever gets noticed in their dark and cold shadows.

Also, they have good editing programs. I don't. Meh Excuse me for not having 600$

People like you inspired me to type this drunken rant

[Scintilla]

So..phade.. while I totally agree with you on the star system idea, ...whats the point if the star rating isn't listed with the video information? The star rating can only be viewed through a members profile? I don't EVER access videos like that. =/

The star average information IS listed with the video information.

Do you have to donate to see that, too? Because I'm not finding it... I only see it on the members' profile pages.

People like you inspired me to type this drunken rant

Rawk!

[Arigatomina]

The star average information IS listed with the video information.

Do you have to donate to see that, too? Because I'm not finding it... I only see it on the members' profile pages.

He meant in the Super Search for donators, ^.~

The star rating doesn't show up on the actual vid description page whether you donate or not.

[Beowulf]

I get the feeling the reason the same people win the VCA year after year is more because of favoritism then real skill.

But don't get me wrong. I'd be the first to say that Koop, AD, Fluxmeister, and dokidoki are damn good creators. All I'm saying is that there is plenty more deserving creators out there as well, just that nobody ever gets noticed in their dark and cold shadows.

Also, they have good editing programs. I don't. Meh Excuse me for not having 600$

Cry me a river. Your post sounds like like the rameblings of a failed artist. And by reading your profile, I'm almost positive they are.

Why don't you post the names of the people you're directly comparing the above too? Or are you just going to hide behind aninimity? I'de like to know exactly who your talking about so I can compare for myself, because I think your just jealous.

What I think is funny is that you feel your in a competent positition to tell these people about skill. Don't lash out at well known creators just because you didn't get breast fed long enough. Its not these people's fault everyone likes them and NOT you.

[paizuri]

I'm sure the popular editors do get their videos watched more often than less popular ones, but they became popular for a reason. And if they are consistently popular, it stands to reason that they must have at least some amount of skill and artistic talent to be able to be consistent. While there may be other deserving videos by less popular creators out there, the GENERAL PUBLIC will most likely flock towards the videos and people that they have heard of. This is the nature of contests where the public decides the winners.

If you are discouraged by this, then try hard to make quality videos and eventually you too may someday become popular. This is a more fruitful endeavor than externalizing blame at innocent sources. I doubt most of these popular editors were hugely successful right off the bat. The most expensive and useful software out there is not going to do you a lick of good if you spend the time and effort to become proficient with it.

So while there is merit in both Pyle's and Beowulf's arguments, I would advise people not to rise to the occasion of commenting in a provocative manner about them.

[mexicanjunior]

Why don't you post the names of the people you're directly comparing the above too?

YES! I WANT NAMES!!!

[Castor Troy]

I'm sure the popular editors do get their videos watched more often than less popular ones, but they became popular for a reason. And if they are consistently popular, it stands to reason that they must have at least some amount of skill and artistic talent to be able to be consistent. While there may be other deserving videos by less popular creators out there, the GENERAL PUBLIC will most likely flock towards the videos and people that they have heard of. This is the nature of contests where the public decides the winners.

If you are discouraged by this, then try hard to make quality videos and eventually you too may someday become popular. This is a more fruitful endeavor than externalizing blame at innocent sources. I doubt most of these popular editors were hugely successful right off the bat. The most expensive and useful software out there is not going to do you a lick of good if you spend the time and effort to become proficient with it.

So while there is merit in both Pyle's and Beowulf's arguments, I would advise people not to rise to the occasion of commenting in a provocative manner about them.

Agreed. That's the way life is. It's never easy.

[Atvaark]

Isn't this topic...redundant?


Sorry, couldn't miss that one!
(Maybe a week ago, I created a topic named "Is the star rating redundant?")

[x_rex30]

This subject seems to never die. I looked at the forum a week ago and saw this complaining. Lets look at it this way. Some people like it and some people hate it. Getting rid of this star system will just cause more complaining.