Does Anyone Really Care About The Star System?

[Arigatomina]

this not have been uploaded? Maybe not...

I don't really see star scale as anything much. There isn't enough variety in scores for it to serve any good purpose, so I usually ignore.

I'd say that particular vid would fall right into the category I put my multi vids in - the "lots watching but too many outside the target audience to put much weight on the score". There are always exceptions.

But I disagree about the variety, at least with my own vids. I think I have more than enough scores to see a pattern, and it says romance is 'in' no matter what the quality (a 3.6 average for the very first vid I uploaded - and the same average for most of my other romance vids), anything featuring YYH is 'in' though good quality vids tend to angle more toward the 4.0 range while the poorer quality stay in the 3.8 range and the ones featuring unknown characters might as well feature a different anime for all viewers know, rare anime vids that get few downloads will have high star scores while those that get advertised will have lots of downloads and 3.4 or lower star scores, multi anime vids will score low if they have more than 4 sources (almost all in the 3.3 range after 200 stars) and only those with very likeable songs will do better at a 3.8 (I've had a few, though the score continues to drop after it reaches 50 - and then levels out at 3.6 when it gets to around 300+ stars).

Not much variety in the scores you can give, but in the received scores I tend to see a number of 'ranks' - I see a big difference between a 3.6 and a 3.8 for instance. This is a way for me to categorize my own videos since I like to know how viewers see them in comparison to each other. But then, I don't really analyze my scores that often - only when I go to upload a new video. About 4 times a month. ^_^;

[fyrtenheimer]

I don't see the real point in them, at least opinions can help you improve but star ratings seem to be designed to make people feel very good when they get 4-5 and then get really depressed when they then go down to about 1 or 2 (as posts in this forum have stated-I might find some later).

Thoughts?

I have like a 3.24 on one video and a 3.74 on another video.

..So what exactly do you feel when you're in the middle.


I don't really think about the scores. More or less the download to star vote ratio. I don't know why. Ops will of course always be nicer.

[Atvaark]

I don't like the star rating system. Cause here's how it works for me:
- 5 stars is for really outstanding videos, so I won't give 5-star ratings to 99% of the vids.
- 4 stars must then be reserved for very good vids. So I don't give many 4-star ratings.
- 3 stars is already the average ! So I HAVE to give 3 stars to all vids from medium to good, which makes A LOT.
- 2 stars is for bad vids.
- 1 star is for DBZ-LP

Conclusion : I give 3 stars to both medium and good vids. So there should be more levels.

Also, I'm wondering if people give as many opinions as they used to, cause they may feel like they already rated a vid, so it's not necessary to give an op.

Other shortcoming : I sometimes delete vids before rating them, especially if I need disk space and they're medium vids, or if they're bad. So when I have to rate them, I don't know what score to give between 1-3. Usually, if I really don't remember the vid from its title, I give a 3 (not guilty, presumed innocent ^^ ). Good for the vid, bad for accuracy.

And from what I saw, the star rating of a vid is an even worse estimation of how much I like it than the opinion score (which is already a bad estimation).

So... I don't care about those stars anymore, though I try to be a good org citizen by rating accordingly to my referential.

[godix]

I don't particularly care what the star ratings are, I made each of my videos because I wanted to and even if the video was unpopular I'd still make another just like it if the idea struck me. So in that sense no, the star ratings aren't important.

OTOH they do let me know what the faceless masses think. For example I've learned that in general they don't like suicide or badgers, at least not how I treat them. So in the future if I do another slow semi-experimental serious video or a parody of a meme I won't upload them because that type of video fits the org about as much as the live action remix of Moulin Rouge's Can-Can dance I did. Plotless dance videos with lots of special effects seem well liked so if I make another of those I'll upload it without a second thought. Under this mindset the star rating is actually more useful than ops. Most people have to really love or hate a video to op it so ops tend to skew towards the extremes. Star ratings are given by almost everyone who sees it so they serve as a decent ranking of the average viewer.

[Atvaark]

For example I've learned that in general they don't like suicide or badgers, at least not how I treat them. So in the future if I do another slow semi-experimental serious video or a parody of a meme I won't upload them because that type of video fits the org about as much as the live action remix of Moulin Rouge's Can-Can dance I did.

Hey, don't say that! Don't care about the masses. I really enjoyed your <i>Goodbye Cruel World</i>. I'm not saying vids should be uploaded just for me ^^ but I cannot reasonably be the only one who has appreciated it.
It's that kind of confidential and innovative that make AMVs so interesting and enjoyable.

[Daio Kaji]

i'd really like to see that Goodbye Cruel World.. but i haven't seen Lain and it's on my 'watch' list, so i try to not watch certain amvs with certain anime in them

but from the video info, it seems like i'd really like it
innovation and pink floyd is always a great combo

btw godix, i hope you were kidding about that star rating of 1 reserved for linkin ball z vids... hmmm, i left my sarcasm meter at home... i mean at school (i'm at home now)

my star ratings tend to be as follows:

5 stars - truely awesome video, stayed consistant with mood/rhythm and really was still semi-original in it's content
4 stars - great video but i could think of a couple points where i would improve on something or quality was an issue (i usually don't rate down on video quality unless it's distracting from the video)
3 stars - average video, it's nothing spectacular but it was well executed
2 stars - the video concept sucked or the editing just simply lacked effort overall, didn't make me feel anything, deletion pending
1 star - this seems to be created to only make me angry, the video not only was an insult to my family, but also to my intelligance for tricking me into dling this

i give out surprisingly a lot of 4's and 5's, probably cause if i find a good editor, i will stick around him/her and check out more of their vids

i have definately given out 1's and 2's before, of course usually the 2's go out to videos that are 'new on the block' because there is nothing to go off of to tell you to not dl the video... unless it says in the profile
"this video literally took me two hours to make, it's the longest i've spent on a video... it sucks... enjoy!"

... actually i think i spent two hours on the videos i currently have up... but let's not talk about that they're old so they in no way reflect my current skill level

[AMV_4000]

i'd really like to see that Goodbye Cruel World.. but i haven't seen Lain and it's on my 'watch' list, so i try to not watch certain amvs with certain anime in them

but from the video info, it seems like i'd really like it
innovation and pink floyd is always a great combo

btw godix, i hope you were kidding about that star rating of 1 reserved for linkin ball z vids... hmmm, i left my sarcasm meter at home... i mean at school (i'm at home now)

my star ratings tend to be as follows:

5 stars - truely awesome video, stayed consistant with mood/rhythm and really was still semi-original in it's content
4 stars - great video but i could think of a couple points where i would improve on something or quality was an issue (i usually don't rate down on video quality unless it's distracting from the video)
3 stars - average video, it's nothing spectacular but it was well executed
2 stars - the video concept sucked or the editing just simply lacked effort overall, didn't make me feel anything, deletion pending
1 star - this seems to be created to only make me angry, the video not only was an insult to my family, but also to my intelligance for tricking me into dling this

i give out surprisingly a lot of 4's and 5's, probably cause if i find a good editor, i will stick around him/her and check out more of their vids

i have definately given out 1's and 2's before, of course usually the 2's go out to videos that are 'new on the block' because there is nothing to go off of to tell you to not dl the video... unless it says in the profile
"this video literally took me two hours to make, it's the longest i've spent on a video... it sucks... enjoy!"

... actually i think i spent two hours on the videos i currently have up... but let's not talk about that they're old so they in no way reflect my current skill level

well my best rated *opped* vid has the lowest stars of any of my vids.. and my best star rated vid has one of the worst ops of my vids.. so i dont pay it much atencion!

[godix]

Thanks you guys, I appreciate it. I didn't mean to sound like I was begging for compliments or anything. I knew before uploading that it wouldn't be all that popular, it was slow depressing and semi-experimental, but I was kinda suprised at how negative the initial reaction actually was. Perhaps I'm wrong on experimental videos getting the shaft though, it looks like Goodye Cruel World is back above 3 for the moment. Out of curiosity ambroise, what's the star rating on your Akira Anthem?

I wasn't the one who gives linkin park DBZ videos a 1, that was ambroise. I don't disagree with him on that but I personally never download linkin park DBZ videos so I don't get a chance to give them 1s.

I suppose to stay on topic I should mention the star scale I use

5 - Well done and entertaining enough for me to keep the video.
4 - Either a typical video I liked enough to keep or a very well done video that I didn't like enough to keep
3 - Typical. Nothing good but nothing horrible. I doubt I'll remember seeing it in a few days
2 - After halfway through I started jumping forward 10 or 15 seconds at a time to see if it got any better but it didn't.
1 - If I were inclinded to be brutally honest I'd tear into the creator worse than Simon on America Idol.

[Atvaark]

Out of curiosity ambroise, what's the star rating on your Akira Anthem?

3.37

Too bad we have no information about standard deviation, because I think it would be maximum.

I wasn't the one who gives linkin park DBZ videos a 1, that was ambroise. I don't disagree with him on that but I personally never download linkin park DBZ videos so I don't get a chance to give them 1s.

In fact, the only time I downloaded a dragonparkz vid was after being harassed on AIM by a newbie who absolutely wanted me to comment on his first vid (don't ask me why he chose *me* and not one of the 140000 other org members...).
Once it was on my drive, I discovered the vid was a WMV linkinball with cartoon network logo. (I had it all in one!)

And if you really want to know, Kaji, I gave it a 2 cause he was a newbie, so yes, I was joking. But not <i>that</i> much.

I don't think I ever gave a 1.


Anyway, if you make a vid for the masses, you make it for the average. So that makes an average video.

[Daio Kaji]

In fact, the only time I downloaded a dragonparkz vid was after being harassed on AIM by a newbie who absolutely wanted me to comment on his first vid (don't ask me why he chose *me* and not one of the 140000 other org members...).

lol, that sux

Once it was on my drive, I discovered the vid was a WMV linkinball with cartoon network logo. (I had it all in one!)

rawk

And if you really want to know, Kaji, I gave it a 2 cause he was a newbie, so yes, I was joking. But not <i>that</i> much.

I don't think I ever gave a 1.

lol, that's okay, if a video deserves a 1, i don't care if he's a newbie, i'd give him/her a 1 and make sure that it's clear why i gave them a 1, it might sound harsh, but meh... i'm sorry... that you made a crappy vid... that resembles the ones i currently have... i should stop ripping into myself

Anyway, if you make a vid for the masses, you make it for the average. So that makes an average video.

awesome quote, where's it from?