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Post by Infinity Squared » Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:44 am

RamonesFan2020204 wrote:I looked up Christy Pawlak on Google, it appears that she really is the Director of Business & Legal Affairs:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Ch ... gle+Search
If you found this person's name on Google, so could anybody else... might be an elaborate and borderline paranoid sounding theory, but you'll never know... either it's real, or someone went to the trouble of researching first before sending you something to throw you off.
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Post by Willen » Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:11 am

Ah, the convoluted story of who has the rights to Macross or the character/mecha designs.

First off, Harmony Gold still has all the rights of the Super Dimension Fortress Macross franchise outside of Japan, via Tatsunoko Productions since 1984. Everyone should know that in 1984/5 Harmony Gold took SDF Macross and combined it with 2 other Tatsunoko series they had the license to, Super Dimension Cavalry Southern Cross and Genesis Climber Mospeada to make Robotech. There is no question that Harmony Gold has the rights to Robotech, since they created it.

Somehow in 1999, AnimEigo obtained the rights to release a subtitled japanese language version of the original Macross. http://macross.anime.net//introduction/ ... index.html
This lasted until the end of 2004. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=5854

Sometime later, in 2001 ADV was selected by Harmony Gold to produce and distribute Robotech for the U.S. market. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=391
(As a side note, in 2002 ADV aquired the rights to produce subtitled japanese releases of Mospeada and Southern Cross. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=1567

Eventually, in 2005 ADV got the green light by Harmony Gold to produce an english dub of SDF Macross. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=6949

Of course, we cannot forget the legal battle that took place in Japan over the rights to Macross between the Producers and the Creators of the show. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Super_ ... ss_Macross

Now, the whole FASA/Battletech (and Transformers) deal is pretty convoluted, too. http://users.megapathdsl.net/~duke/faq/faq1.htm

All this doesn't affect the sequels and spin-offs of the original series (except Macross: DYRL?) since they are all licensed by Big West and Studio Nue solely, and have absoluely nothing to do with Tatsunoko Pro or Harmony Gold.

P.S. When AnimEigo announced the Macross deal, I had the opportunity to be one of the first to pre-order the set. Unfortunately (or, in retrospect, fortunately) I didn't jump on it right away and then I subsequently lost the email account that I used back then so they couldn't contact me anymore. Eventually, my brother purchased the revised mini-sets when they went on closeout at Right Stuf (for cheap!) after AnimEigo lost the rights to the series.
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Post by JudgeHolden » Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:12 am

RamonesFan2020204 wrote:I didn't get it here, I got it PMed to me at another video site I'm at.
Then it is noit real per se .... It is like and C&D order ... it has to be mailed or delivered by messanger .. like a summons .... an pm does not count as a legal document ....

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Post by JudgeHolden » Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:30 am

JudgeHolden wrote:
RamonesFan2020204 wrote:I didn't get it here, I got it PMed to me at another video site I'm at.
Then it is noit real per se .... It is like and C&D order ... it has to be mailed or delivered by messanger .. like a summons .... an pm does not count as a legal document ....

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Ignore the every poor typing ... I need to get more sleep. Now she may still be sending you a paper copy. So, what I wrote might not matter. :roll:

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Post by Pie Row Maniac » Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:26 pm

Gotta agree with everyone else here, a PM is hardly official. Tell them to send you something through the mail. Demand some PAPER proof and a signature.

It's better to be safe than sorry, but be sure that theres anything to be safe from in this.
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Post by Hauntedcow » Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:40 pm

Pie Row Maniac wrote:Gotta agree with everyone else here, a PM is hardly official. Tell them to send you something through the mail. Demand some PAPER proof and a signature.

It's better to be safe than sorry, but be sure that theres anything to be safe from in this.
And if it is for real, then you won't actually be getting the C&D order for about a month or two, because they wouls have to secure the right to have the site admin disclose your IP, then go back to court with that to get the right to subpoena your ISP to get your name (or whoever's is on the bill, if you live with your parents, its probably theirs) and addess, then mail it off.

Then you have to reply "immediately" which is actually a 7 day window because not everyone can fax a statement to the company because not everyone has a fax machine, so they would have to wait at LEAST 7 days (Not including Sundays, andI'm sure its 7 it might be 9) to wait for your response.

Sounds fake, someone really needs to get a life over at that forum. Legal matters take time, not 1 simple PM. I know about this because I've recieved a subpoena myself last year. I was not in any trouble, I was just told to provide a tape for evidence that I was apparently "withholding", they were disappointed to not find anything new on the original tape.

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Post by Willen » Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:32 pm

Hauntedcow wrote:
Pie Row Maniac wrote:Gotta agree with everyone else here, a PM is hardly official. Tell them to send you something through the mail. Demand some PAPER proof and a signature.

It's better to be safe than sorry, but be sure that theres anything to be safe from in this.
And if it is for real, then you won't actually be getting the C&D order for about a month or two, because they wouls have to secure the right to have the site admin disclose your IP, then go back to court with that to get the right to subpoena your ISP to get your name (or whoever's is on the bill, if you live with your parents, its probably theirs) and addess, then mail it off.

Then you have to reply "immediately" which is actually a 7 day window because not everyone can fax a statement to the company because not everyone has a fax machine, so they would have to wait at LEAST 7 days (Not including Sundays, andI'm sure its 7 it might be 9) to wait for your response.

Sounds fake, someone really needs to get a life over at that forum. Legal matters take time, not 1 simple PM. I know about this because I've recieved a subpoena myself last year. I was not in any trouble, I was just told to provide a tape for evidence that I was apparently "withholding", they were disappointed to not find anything new on the original tape.
Well, we will know if this is real, I suppose, in about 1 month then. A PM'd C&D sound pretty iffy to me too. The admin of the other site where you got the PM may be able to find out if this C&D is from a legit source.
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