Anything you can do, I can do better?

[staces]

Well, thats why no one will ever make videos using music I use. I edited the crap out of excalibur, and no one even thinks of using the song, cause they know they cant do any better.

This coming from someone whose opinion averages are all in the periwinkle except for two? =/ Mmhmm. . . Honestly I've never seen one of your AMVs but those numbers are none to impressive.

[Iphigenia]

I know what you mean ^_^;;

I recently made a video to the song "Someday" by Nickelback for FFX/-2. ITs already been done about 4 times (and they all sucked too). I didn't credit the others cause I liked the song way before AND my idea was 100% different (I told the story of Shuyin and Lenne being reborn as Yuna and Tidus in order to find each other again. Sappy, but fun ^_^)

THe main issue on this one was that I originally heard the song from the AMV but its cool to see the opinions of site members even now

[Scintilla]

And "who would care about [inverse telecine]"? Well, that would be those that actually understand what it does. That being changing the framerate back to 24fps from 30fps without losing quality.

Up until this point you were fine, but then you said:

Since DVDs are almost always in 24fps, and most AMVs are editted in 30fps for simplicities sake with editting software.

- Most anime DVDs are encoded at 29.97, not 24. If a source you're using was encoded as 24 progressive, consider yourself lucky.
- There are plenty of people who inverse telecine <i>before</i> editing, and then edit at 24 (or 23.976, even better) frames per second. I do it myself, almost exclusively (only two exceptions so far, and one of them was for a MEP).

Since Premiere does not really like editting at 23.98fps.

Basically true, and that's why Absolute Destiny wrote up a section of the A/V guide on how to edit at 24fps in Adobe Premiere.

Basically inverse telecining takes your editted video and returns it 24fps to make it FILM again.

But it's better to IVTC your footage <i>before</i> editing, if possible; if you do it after editing, you run the risk of screwing up effects and such.

[SnhKnives]

- There are plenty of people who inverse telecine <i>before</i> editing, and then edit at 24 (or 23.976, even better) frames per second. I do it myself, almost exclusively (only two exceptions so far, and one of them was for a MEP).

and that's only cause I didn't at the time feel comfortable with converting 23.976 to 29.97 in post editing processes >_>

[SuperS4]

Yeah, sorry about that, I wrote that at what...3 or 4am my time. I'm surprised I managed to write that so long without falling asleep on my keyboard.

And yes, Inverse telecine should be done before editting not after because if you do it after as you said, effects tend to get f'd up quite a bit. Thanks for correcting me on all my screwups

[Ashyukun]

Throwing my $0.02 into the pot- in general, I see no real problems with someone making a video with the same sources as something I've done, or with making a video using the same sources as someone else has. It gets a bit more interesting if you've actually seen the other video beforehand, as you're likely going to be influenced by what you've seen (be it to think the scene selection was good and use something similar or to try and not use anything similar), but everyone has their own way of approaching things and the odds are the videos would each be distinctly different.

I would say it's going to far to exactly remake a video scene for scene and claim it's your own- that's only slightly less bad IMO than just outright stealing it and claiming you'd made a video. Though I will admit that trying to remake a video can be good practice- I re-sharpened my skills in Premiere after my long break from editing by attempting to re-create Bobby Beaver's 'Phantom Bride' A-ko video, but that wasn't distributed at all.

I've actually thought it would be an interesting variation on the Iron Editor/Iron Chef idea to have the editors be using exactly the same sources instead of having different audio tracks and seeing how different the videos came out.