originality VS execution

[bum]

yeah i like doing that, but only for practice vids that i finish in a day. if i wana release something then its allways gona be something that people have never seen before. like warren spector, i aim for the stars (ok so deus ex 2 "failed misserably" but i blame that on the increasing move from making great gameplay to using dx9 pixel and vertex shaders to acurately calculate and draw the shadow of a pile of shit as you move a light over it

[dwchang]

self explanatory, now start making constructive arguement.

What's there to discuss? Both are equally important. An original idea that's horribly executed is still a horrible video. I guess by the same token, a well executed uncreative video is NOT horrible *shrug*. I guess I sorta just answered that >_<.

By the same token, I still feel that both are pretty dern important given that both aren't "easy" to accomplish. I'm sure someone will say that it is easy to execute well, but then well...why are the majority of videos execute mediocrely (at best)? I'd say that although originality is a tough thing to "come up with," executing upon it is also just as important.

Wow I'm going in circles

[bum]

id say that if i tried focusing on execution a bit more instead of the dozen or so original idea's i have in my head then mabey id get a bit beter at making amv's. actualy, mabey id get a bit beter if i bothered releasing a new one occasionaly (ive got 3 siting in my hdd that i havent released, thou thiers only one that il probaly ever wana release)

[godix]

Execution. I love originality, it's the single highest factor in my appreciation of any form of art, but it just doesn't last. The same things makes me go 'Wow, I've never seen that done before!' today will make me say 'Damnit, again?' tommorow. An original idea has to have good execution to be enjoyable after everyones ripped off it's originality but a well executed video doesn't have to be original to be remain enjoyable.

As an example, which do you remember better, the first DBZ/Linkin Park video you've seen or the best DBZ/Linkin Park video you've seen?

[trythil]

As an example, which do you remember better, the first DBZ/Linkin Park video you've seen or the best DBZ/Linkin Park video you've seen?

The first DBZ/Linkin Park I ever saw, of course. The scars on my wrists are hard to ignore.

Oh wait, that wasn't the answer you were looking for, was it?

[godix]

The first DBZ/Linkin Park I ever saw, of course. The scars on my wrists are hard to ignore.

Oh wait, that wasn't the answer you were looking for, was it?

Damnit! It was a rhetorical question, not a request to destroy my point!

You should try my attitude to watching videos. I don't have scars on my wrist from DBZ/Linkin Park because I haven't seen an AMV to either of them in it's entirety. On the other hand I do have scars on my wrist from dealing with Premiere crashes so maybe my attitude isn't ideal after all.

[OmniStrata]

I guess he wants a choice as to what people prefer?

I'm more for Execution. How many genres are there that have been done?

And no, I have yet to come across a certain type of amv that's like, executed well... [don't ask me why]

[Arigatomina]

And no, I have yet to come across a certain type of amv that's like, executed well... [don't ask me why]

What does that mean? ^_^;; Do you mean there is a certain genre of amvs (an original one) that's never been executed well? Or you've never found any specific video that was executed well?



For me, it depends. I've seen some highly original videos that were executed well - but the idea was so original (and far-fetched/weird) that I hated them despite both originality and good execution. On the other hand, there are a few genre of vids that have been done to death - yet there are maybe one or two well-executed videos among those hundreds - in that case, I'd love to see good execution, even if the idea itself is very old (aka most romance vids, dbz vids, eva vids, lp vids, flcl vids, love hina vids - anything that gets done a lot and done with the same concept for each vid).

Then again, I also love a video with an original anime or idea that is just interesting to watch (even if the execution is poor) - it depends on the idea, whatever it is that *makes* it original.

Originality vs execution - for my own videos I don't care. There are some over-done ideas that simply have never been done to my satisfaction, so I'll use them myself no matter how unoriginal it is - because execution is a matter of opinion, and to me a well-executed video (amid hundreds of poorly done vids) is highly original in and of itself. But it's not the originality that makes me like it, or the execution, it's the combination. That's with my own vids.

If I had a choice between a highly original video done to 'Maze' and a Cory Feldman song or a DBZ vid featuring the usual characters and a common song - I'm going to go for the familiar territory. Quite frankly, original videos rarely interest me. They're usually foreign and weird (for parodies), boring (for attempts at comedy), unintelligible (for story vids featuring unknown anime), or seemingly random (which I can get anywhere - in which case it's not original at all). That's the problem with originality - unless you cater to audiences who only care about appearances (aka effect vids), you have to have a great grasp of both action sync and storytelling - and even then you may find yourself without an audience.

I know I've said it before, but as much as people complain about common videos (dbz, yyh, inuyasha, gw, rk) - those are the videos that get the most downloads for me. Why? Because my original vids feature things that aren't *aimed* at your typical viewer. That's what makes them original. In which case, execution doesn't matter a bit - you can have the best video in the world but it won't make any difference if no one watches it because they don't know the anime or the song (not to mention rare concepts that don't fit the norm).

[OmniStrata]

And no, I have yet to come across a certain type of amv that's like, executed well... [don't ask me why]

What does that mean? ^_^;; Do you mean there is a certain genre of amvs (an original one) that's never been executed well? Or you've never found any specific video that was executed well?

Yes, and I'm not going to put that genre here for uh, personal reasons...

[HeavyMetal]

Well without both originality and execution its difficult for an AMV to really be exceptional. There are always exceptions to any rule of course, including the above.

If an original video stinks and someone else uses the idea to create an awesome video, whose video will be watched more? (Execution)

Execution:
Execution counts for a lot of the entertainment value. If the video is boring to watch it won't exactly be ground breaking. I find Aluminum Studios videos to be to mostly lame songs, however the videos are done so well I can not help but watch.

Originality:
Originality is often the initial draw to the video. Too many great videos to the same idea tend to cancel one another out, and require a new higher standard. However no matter how original a video is; if it stinks it stinks.

To address the topic of Linkin Park DBZ videos. I am yet to be overly impressed with any that I have seen. Some are okay but the over done popularity of the band tends to make it a target for beginners and early novices. (Novices have some knowledge, beginners are clue less; note the difference.)

To be honest both originality and execution are typically necessary to create a monumental video.

I personally dislike repetitive videos as much as I dislike p*ss poor lip syncing.

Next time try wording your topic better if you want a more specific answer.