Deleting posts

J-0080 · Post by **J-0080** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 4:32 pm

I didn't think cows jumped over cliffs....I thought only lemmings did that in huge groups.

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 4:35 pm

J-0080 wrote:I didn't think cows jumped over cliffs....I thought only lemmings did that in huge groups.

Heh, stampedes run straight - if the ground ends, they go right on over. ;p

J-0080 · Post by **J-0080** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 4:41 pm

What about...if every member was a rhino, they don't run over cliffs.

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 4:47 pm

J-0080 wrote:What about...if every member was a rhino, they don't run over cliffs.

Depends on their eye sight and brain capacity. Despite their large bodies, cattle are relatively dumb. Horses, on the other hand would split in two - half going over the cliff while the smarter ones realize what they're doing and turn in time. Think of the people flaming as the dumb cattle - the ones that don't realize they're hurting themselves and just keep going straight. The smart ones already caught on and turned (the really smart ones never got into a frenzy in the first place). The dumb ones keep going unless something stops them, whether it's education making them smarter, or a wall they can smack their heads into and hopefully knock sense into them.

J-0080 · Post by **J-0080** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 5:33 pm

So, we should teach flamers how to ride horses?

Lyrs · Post by **Lyrs** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 5:34 pm

J-0080 wrote:So, we should teach flamers how to ride horses?

of course

Nestorath69 · Post by **Nestorath69** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 6:05 pm

Arigatomyna wrote:
Nestorath69 wrote:The one thing that will work is action.

Instead of saying, "We have a problem with flames, can we delete them?" Don't flame.
That's the problem, they refuse to show restraint so some sort of 'action' needs to be taken. It wouldn't *be* a problem if they would simply stop on their own accord because it's the 'right thing to do' or because they don't want to look like idiots. They continue because they can, and as long as there is a group of people doing it, no one has a reason to stop - safety in numbers. I know you've mentioned sheep, well, sheep are like cattle - they'll charge right over the cliff unless someone puts up a wall to stop them. I'm asking for a wall, for their good, and for the site which you might say...thrives on the beef market, no matter how dumb some of the individuals may act. o.O

A specific problem does exist where people consistently inflame a specific issue over and over again, where they are not treated with respect, I see the valid concern that those who are flamed will flame others. I understand the group mentality. But again, do you feel that bringing the Site Admins in over such a jeuvenile problem is necessary? I feel that a dynamic form of leadership is required in this sort of situation instead of consequences.
Once you begin to involve the Site Administrators, there is an opportunity for everyone to cry foul, simply because an individual opinion is being expressed. Hence an earlier sig of mine which was a disclaimer.
Again, referring to the people crying foul: If this is taken to the level of which you are suggesting, then, in fact, inevitably people will start getting ejected from the site simply because they're 'flaming' others. A simple disagreement of opinion could cause this. Anime is as controversial a subject as Religeon and politics.

Any suggestions on this active leadership? perhaps a arrangement with the moderators and some of the more established people who don't violate the rules could regulate out the flames as they see them, or warn the people who typically flame the others... it's a suggestion.

J-0080 · Post by **J-0080** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 6:09 pm

Nestorath69 wrote: A specific problem does exist where people consistently inflame a specific issue over and over again, where they are not treated with respect.

You mean like the constant people are mean and flaming threads and oh plz great mods and admins save us all from their mean words?

Nestorath69 · Post by **Nestorath69** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 6:18 pm

I just feel that this situation could escalate into a serious matter where people are expelled simply for disagreeing with a specific opinion. That, I feel, is where this will lead. We cannot allow such restrictions, we should control our own actions, and help people to understand that by flaming, they are becoming more and more in danger of becoming shunned by the main body. Let me ask you this: Do you feel that this would be a open and free forum if someone was to give a differing opinion on a particular subject, and they were warned by the mods? The Mods shouldn't have to baby sit.
I'm learning how be a network administrator, and I hate the idea that i may, in fact, have to babysit. I think that they would hate that as much as me. We should govern ourselves, be responsible for ourselves, and either advise those who are in danger of being irresponsible, or demonstrate through actions that flaming shouldn't be tolerated.

J-0080 · Post by **J-0080** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 6:24 pm

Yeah, of course people also though socialism would work out.