A forum for newbies?

YouTube · Post by **Kionon** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 4:17 pm

JaddziaDax wrote:Bauzi, that doesn't really answer my question as to how this forum would stop people from posting in the "wrong places" and asking questions that have been asked a million times..

Essentially, it would be a forced first stop. Where all of the stickies would be placed, and where even the stupidest of questions would be answered, even if answered ten minutes prior. If new members have no choice but to post their first few posts inside of the newbie forum, especially if it's to receive something of value, such as the right to upload to local, then it will curtail those postings elsewhere. Curtail, slow, restrict, restrain. Not eliminate completely.

JaddziaDax · Post by **JaddziaDax** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 4:33 pm

But what of meta discussion then that goes on in General AMV.. and the people who don't necessarily want to be involved in amv making yet still contribute to the conversation..

and who is to decide when they can go into other areas... I've seen amvers that have been around as long as I have yet still ask the typical "newb" questions because they haven't learned yet, or they have just recently decided to start editing.

I donno doesn't seem very fair either to force them post in one section in my opinion.

YouTube · Post by **Kionon** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:05 pm

JaddziaDax wrote:But what of meta discussion then that goes on in General AMV.. and the people who don't necessarily want to be involved in amv making yet still contribute to the conversation..

and who is to decide when they can go into other areas... I've seen amvers that have been around as long as I have yet still ask the typical "newb" questions because they haven't learned yet, or they have just recently decided to start editing.

I donno doesn't seem very fair either to force them post in one section in my opinion.

You're making this out to be far more machevellian than it is. I said a few posts, and I mean it. We're not going to stop stupidity, but we can do more than just expect the newbies to be able to find all of the knowledge we have when its scattered all over the site, not even just the forums.

Personally, I don't think it's practical to make it anything but automated. There won't be a panel of elder statesmen (or women) who get to choose when I newbie is "ready." That is] unfair. Rather, it should be a some other automatically tallied event sequence that will allow the site itself to grant the user with full status. It could be post count, it could be "read this and check the agreement at the bottom" it could be a combination. The intent is to offer toll booths, not brick walls. If the toll booth slows the average newbie down, then it is a success.

JaddziaDax · Post by **JaddziaDax** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:19 pm

it could be "read this and check the agreement at the bottom"

we have this when you sign up :3

JaddziaDax · Post by **JaddziaDax** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:21 pm

oh and this is why I'm asking questions, not making assumptions...

YouTube · Post by **Kionon** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:26 pm

JaddziaDax wrote:
it could be "read this and check the agreement at the bottom"
we have this when you sign up :3

Somehow I don't think newbies have to read my sticky or Ian's guide before they can complete registration.

And remember whatever we do have now, it didn't exist when I registered. When I registered there were no forums. Up hill. Both ways. In the snow. And we liked it that way.

The Origonal Head Hunter · Post by **The Origonal Head Hunter** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:41 pm

Kionon wrote:
JaddziaDax wrote:
it could be "read this and check the agreement at the bottom"
we have this when you sign up :3
Somehow I don't think newbies have to read my sticky or Ian's guide before they can complete registration.

somehow I don't think newbies will waste time with reading anything when they can simply scroll down and click "agree".

YouTube · Post by **Kionon** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:44 pm

The Origonal Head Hunter wrote:somehow I don't think newbies will waste time with reading anything when they can simply scroll down and click "agree".

It was an example, only that. We're not yet to the point where we're articulating specific measures.

lynit · Post by **lynit** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:47 pm

Personally, I don't think it's practical to make it anything but automated. There won't be a panel of elder statesmen (or women) who get to choose when I newbie is "ready." That is] unfair. Rather, it should be a some other automatically tallied event sequence that will allow the site itself to grant the user with full status. It could be post count, it could be "read this and check the agreement at the bottom" it could be a combination. The intent is to offer toll booths, not brick walls. If the toll booth slows the average newbie down, then it is a success.

I've seen this enforced in a few forums, and dunno if it will work here, but you could make it so the Annoucements board (and any others) are barred to newly registered members unless they have a high enough post count (And it has to be spam-free...meaning they can't spend all their time posting in the Anime and Music boards), and or any other criteria. Like I mentioned, it's worked well in a few other forums in serving as a 'toll booth'.

Just an idea :3

BasharOfTheAges · Post by **BasharOfTheAges** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 6:11 pm

Kionon wrote:We're not going to stop stupidity, but we can do more than just expect the newbies to be able to find all of the knowledge we have when its scattered all over the site, not even just the forums.

God forbid people have to do some work.