Re-use of art on a-m-v.org

[Keeper of Hellfire]

You could really cut back on the art theft by making a rule that the banners can only feature anime stock images (manga, anime, possibly Japanese Doujinshi that were sold for profit).

Why is "stealing" from commercial art ok and for non-comercial art not?

For both kinds of art the same rules should apply. And for me it's okay as long as it follows that what I call fair use (doesn't necessary fit the laws):
- you don't make profit with it
- you don't interfere with the profit interests of the copyright holder
- you don't claim the part you have taken from others as your own
- you credit the copyright holder

With copyright holder I mean every person who has made some kind of art, no matter if based on the work of others or not.

[Farlo]

For both kinds of art the same rules should apply. And for me it's okay as long as it follows that what I call fair use (doesn't necessary fit the laws):
- you don't make profit with it
- you don't interfere with the profit interests of the copyright holder
- you don't claim the part you have taken from others as your own
- you credit the copyright holder

very well said

[bum]

So how about a rule to remove something if the copyright holder requests it? Like ari said, it could save our necks and its no different from stealing amv's, whcih people are allways complaining aout.

[trythil]

I wonder if we can reach some sort of compromise here by providing a voluntary attribution mechanism for banners, much like we do for AMVs.

This would ask a banner creator to provide details of any borrowed (not "stolen"...that word doesn't make sense in this context at all) artwork. We could then link that data and make it conveniently publicly available, perhaps as ALT text or accessible when someone clicks on a banner.

Would that work?

[Zarxrax]

I think the bigger question here is...
why the hell do we still need more new banners?

[Arigatomina]

I wonder if we can reach some sort of compromise here by providing a voluntary attribution mechanism for banners, much like we do for AMVs.

This would ask a banner creator to provide details of any borrowed (not "stolen"...that word doesn't make sense in this context at all) artwork. We could then link that data and make it conveniently publicly available, perhaps as ALT text or accessible when someone clicks on a banner.

Would that work?

That would make the usage the 'same' as what we currently do with anime footage and songs. Give credit by naming the owner/source and it's 'using without express permission' instead of 'plagiarising'.

Keeper of Hellfire: The difference is when we use an anime, we give credit to the creators by naming the anime used. When we use a song, we give credit to the creators by naming the song (and the artist). When people use fanart and original art (which *is* copywritten if it's stolen from deviantart.com) they give no credit to anyone.

Name me one banner-maker who credits the 'copyright holder' when he steals a picture from a professional artist's website and puts it up under his org name. I'm not talking about 'stock' images that are 'known' to be owned by the creators of the anime they're taken from. I'm talking about pictures artists make of their own 'original anime-styled' characters, that banner makers steal and put up without giving credit to anyone.

Just because an artist draws 'anime-style' pictures doesn't mean he'll react to the 'usage' of his work the same way anime owners do. A good video promotes the anime used. A stolen picture (which doesn't list the true artist) doesn't promote anything except the person who stole it.

[downwithpants]

currently the site removes amvs that are reported for stealing footage from other amvs without permission. the same standards should be applied to banners.

the reasoning for this double standard of fan-art vs. commercial art is as Ari stated: we assume that the artwork that goes into a video or banner is either from the anime or created by the editor(s), unless otherwise noted.