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Post by Arigatomina » Fri Nov 07, 2003 1:00 am

Lyrs wrote:yep, i mentioned that. it's based on the number of words a person types.

what the idea is is giving the amv creators a hand in scoring/rating opinions.
Heh, and *some* people get to the top of that list by copy and pasting the same lyrics 60 times. :roll: :roll: :roll:

But wouldn't this rating idea be similar to the 'karma' system Phade has on his list? I don't know if that will ever go into effect, but I thought reviews and such would effect a person's 'karma'.

Either way, just don't give negative scores. It's one thing to praise good reviews if you find them helpful, but punishing people who leave quick reviews will make them not leave any - and last I heard it's still difficult to get people to leave reviews in the first place. No sense running people away because they aren't experts enough to pick up every single flaw in a frame-by-frame description. ^_^;;

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Post by Flint the Dwarf » Fri Nov 07, 2003 1:07 am

Arigatomyna wrote:
Lyrs wrote:yep, i mentioned that. it's based on the number of words a person types.

what the idea is is giving the amv creators a hand in scoring/rating opinions.
Heh, and *some* people get to the top of that list by copy and pasting the same lyrics 60 times. :roll: :roll: :roll:
*cough*dbz_doomrider*cough*

Not to point fingers or subliminally mention the type of person that might do that.
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Post by Lyrs » Fri Nov 07, 2003 12:37 pm

Arigatomyna wrote:But wouldn't this rating idea be similar to the 'karma' system Phade has on his list? I don't know if that will ever go into effect, but I thought reviews and such would effect a person's 'karma'.
I'm not sure what is in the "karma" system, maybe this is already part of the design.
Either way, just don't give negative scores. It's one thing to praise good reviews if you find them helpful, but punishing people who leave quick reviews will make them not leave any - and last I heard it's still difficult to get people to leave reviews in the first place. No sense running people away because they aren't experts enough to pick up every single flaw in a frame-by-frame description. ^_^;;
They don't have to, all it would require them is to write more then the "good," "bad," comments, that don't provide any reasoning behind them.

as for scaring people off.... :?
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Post by Arigatomina » Fri Nov 07, 2003 2:30 pm

Ah, my main idea for having it be a 'addition' only rating is that you won't have to worry about people giving low points because a review doesn't give high numbers. You won't have the review average raising because people are afraid to score below an 8 for fear their karma (or opinion rating) will drop as a result.

If everyone starts at 0 and it can only go up, then you'll still have people giving high scores with the hopes of having a high rating, but those who score honestly won't do that. And those who are likely to punish people for not giving high enough scores will be tough out of luck. There'll be no reason for the random reviewer to stop making reviews (for fear of having a negative review rating - for whatever reason), and plenty of motivation for people to give good reviews (you can only go up).

But anyway, yes, last I heard the karma takes reviews into account - I don't really know what else it covers, but that was a part of it. I have no idea when (or if) it might go into effect, though - or whether it's a 'negative versus positive' rating system or just a positive one.

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Re: Opinion rating

Post by Farlo » Fri Nov 07, 2003 3:30 pm

Lyrs wrote:Idea: The amv creator has the option to rate a reviewer.

It could be the star-like system and/or the review/opinion system.

the benefits? good reviewers get good scoes, bad ones get bad scores, and has their dicks shortened.

really bad reviewers could be singled out and castrated.

I'm aware that there is a similar system in place, but it's based on word count.
i dont think it would work well with the artist reviewing the reviewers, i think it should be other people oping them instead, but i like the idea. i just dont think it would get anywhere if the artist was doing the oping on the ops.

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Re: Opinion rating

Post by Lyrs » Fri Nov 07, 2003 3:41 pm

el_farlo wrote:i dont think it would work well with the artist reviewing the reviewers, i think it should be other people oping them instead, but i like the idea. i just dont think it would get anywhere if the artist was doing the oping on the ops.
Sounds like a good idea, however, how would it work?
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Post by Onideus_Mad_Hatter » Fri Nov 07, 2003 3:54 pm

You know, technically you can already review the reviewers. Everytime someone leaves an opinion you get all the white space you want to make comments about what they said...I'm just sayin...

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Post by Arigatomina » Fri Nov 07, 2003 5:15 pm

Lyrs wrote:
el_farlo wrote:i dont think it would work well with the artist reviewing the reviewers, i think it should be other people oping them instead, but i like the idea. i just dont think it would get anywhere if the artist was doing the oping on the ops.
Sounds like a good idea, however, how would it work?
And how does a bystander know what's useful to someone else? Sure, I've looked through opinion lists for other people and noted a few who seem quite useless to me - but since I'm not the creator I don't know whether or not those few words had any effect on the future work of that creator. I just see it from the outside.

I can score those who give the 'all 1s' reviews easily - anyone can do that. But I can't tell how useful a review is unless I'm the one getting it - unless it applies to a video I made. I can read a review and know if it helped me. But I can't just dismiss someone else's review because I don't think it would help *me* if I'd gotten it - for all I know it could help the person who received it. I'm not the person on the receiving end of that review, so I can't judge how useful it is to that person.

Sure, that manner of grading reviews would be less biased, but I don't think it's the most accurate way to determine what reviews are useful to different people.

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