Codec with similar compression to divx?

[BurningLeaves]

Im fairly new to this. And ill admit this codec thing really confuses me. Basically I finally got my dvd ripped. I encoded my files with divx. That has usually worked for me. They will not work in WMM and in vegas only the audio worked. So I re-encoded as xvid. Same deal, I know on these forums you usually say not to use those two but this is the first problem if had with those. So I re-encoded again as huffyuv it worked. But the file size is way to large for me to work with. WMM crashed (surprise) when I put it in and it took Vegas 20 mins to load a 1:14 clip. So basically im looking for another codec with the same or similar compression as xvid/divx. But that will actually work. If any one has any ideas on how I would go about encoding this id be greatly appreciative. Also: I have always used DIVX, I havnt had this type of problem before. I had been running off a very old version of DIVX and decided to upgrade to version 6. So this problem came about after my upgrade. Now I know nothing about codecs or things like this but it made me think, Could that be the reason why some people can use DIVX fine while others cannot? Like the people running on older versions do not encounter these problems, while people running on the newer versions do? Just a thought thank you for any advice you might be able to give me

[BasharOfTheAges]

Read this as to the why o the matter: http://www.aquilinestudios.org/DivX_Editing.html

Anything that compresses that much will be doing you a disservice in the ways mentioned. Also problems are sporadic, but they often do happen and that's why we advise against using lossy encodes to edit with.

[Keeper of Hellfire]

So I re-encoded again as huffyuv it worked. But the file size is way to large for me to work with. WMM crashed (surprise) when I put it in and it took Vegas 20 mins to load a 1:14 clip.

Do I understand this right? WMM crashed with a HuffYUV, and Vegas needed 20 min to load a HuffYUV? Sounds like a heavy codec conflict. But one question: Did you convert it to RGB before saving as HuffYUV? Otherwise it is very likely that it is stored in YUY2 color space, which the most editing programs can't handle.

[BurningLeaves]

thank you both very much for trying to help me.

BasharOfTheAges I went to that link it was very informative, thank you

Keeper of Hellfire WMM crashes often with me, so I didnt think anything was wrong, after the 20 or so minuites with Vegas it did eventually load. My computer isnt all that fast so I just assumed it had something to do with that. I try to stay away from unconpressed or large files because A. slowish computer and B. not enough hard drive space. But I didnt convert anything RGB I put the clips in virtualdub and encoded as they were. Im not sure if thats what you were asking me or not. But thank you for trying to help.

I think I found what I was looking for in something called in Microsoft Windows Media Video 9 (ms-wmv9) it keeps the small compression and works in both WMM and Vegas for me. I basically just kept going down the list of compression options in Vdub untill I found something that works and so far so good with that one.
I have no idea what it is haha. Never herd of it before. But its working for me. I guess ill use this then re-encode when im finished with my video. thank you both

[CrackTheSky]

You could always try cutting the HuffYUV clips into SMALLER clips. 1:14 is pretty long for a single clip; You could try using VDubMod to split clips that are that long (or longer) into a series of much shorter, 10-15 second clips instead, so they'd load in Vegas faster.

You could also convert the clips to Lagarith, which take up - what, like a third of the space as HuffYUV without any quality difference? Of course, WMM doesn't like Lagarith, but Vegas has no problems with it.

[BurningLeaves]

You could also convert the clips to Lagarith, which take up - what, like a third of the space as HuffYUV without any quality difference? Of course, WMM doesn't like Lagarith, but Vegas has no problems with it.

Thanks for the advice. This is the first time im going to be trying vegas. Thats why I wanted to make sure that what I use in vegas will also work in WMM so if I cant figure out Vegas. Well more get used to, then figure out. I can do the vid in WMM. I think the codec im trying now is going to work for me. But thank you very much for trying to help.

[JaddziaDax]

and if you wanna minimize load time in vegas, if you remove the sound it would stop "building peaks" as it would have no peaks to build

[CrackTheSky]

and if you wanna minimize load time in vegas, if you remove the sound it would stop "building peaks" as it would have no peaks to build

...AND you can turn off the Media Manager in Vegas by going to preferences and checking/unchecking the appropriate box. I haven't ever found a use for the thing, and disabling it makes Vegas boot up a hell of a lot faster, and run faster in general.

[BurningLeaves]

Thank you both VERY much for the tips on vegas. there seems to be a big quality diffrence between the videos made with wmm and vegas but im kind of a old dog when it comes to new tricks so thank you both for your tips, I really do appreciate them