DBZ AMV - Tenacious Disapproval (HQ & Mostly Remastered)

[Typhoon859]

Yes, I know what you're thinking, "Omg, another DBZ AMV..."

DBZ is my obsession and the only other anime I really like is Death Note. Don't worry though, no Linkin Park is involved .

"Tenacious Disapproval" is a DBZ AMV, mainly based around the struggle for approval that Trunks tries to achieve from his father which Vegeta constantly just throws aside and then denies accepting him. Sometimes, there were exceptions to this conflict and eventually, it changes completely... I tried my best to display this change and also represent Vegeta's development.


The Other Categories: Action, Character Profile

Footage: Mostly from the new Remastered Widescreen DBZ Boxsets

Editing Software: Adobe Premiere CS3


Technical Specs-
Video Length: 5:07
Video Codec: h264
Video Quality: 2000 kbps
Audio Codec: Lame MP3
Audio Quality: 48000Hz, 192 kbps
Resolution: 704x396
Frame Rate: 23.976 fps
File Size: 77.71 MB (81,487,595 bytes)

Hi-Def Technical Specs-
Video Length: 5:07
Video Codec: h264
Video Quality: 5000 kbps
Audio Codec: Lame MP3
Audio Quality: 48000Hz, 192 kbps
Resolution: 1920x1080
Frame Rate: 23.976 fps
File Size: 170.31 MB (178,582,892 bytes)



LYRICS-

What if there was no light.
Nothing wrong, nothing right.
What if there was no time?
And no reason or rhyme?
What if you should decide
That you don't want me there by your side.
That you don't want me there in your life.

What if I got it wrong?
And no poem or song..
Could put right what I got wrong,
Or make you feel I belong
What if you should decide
That you don't want me there by your side
That you don't want me there in your life.

Oooooh, that's right
Let's take a breath, jump over the side.
Oooooh, that's right
How can you know it if you don't even try?
Oooooh, that's right

Every step that you take
Could be your biggest mistake
It could bend or it could break
But that's the risk that you take
What if you should decide
That you don't want me there in your life.
That you don't want me there by your side.

Oooooh, that's right
Let's take a breath jump over the side.
Oooooh, that's right
How can you know it when you don't even try?
Oooooh, that's right

Oooooh, that's right
Let's take a breath jump over the side
Oooooh, that's right
You know that darkness always turns into light
Oooooh, that's right..


**Understanding the lyrics intensifies the meaning of this AMV XD



Honest opinions I'd greatly appreciate, good or bad. But nothing like, "DBZ sucks", thanks

[Brad]

First off, as an overall statement, I will say, not bad. There were certain parts of the video that I really did like. I thought the song choice was good for the story you were trying to convey (and it doesn't hurt that I already liked the song to begin with). So as I give you critiques, understand that they're here to be constructive.

The opening shot with Trunks singing (or looking like he's singing. I'm assuming it was intentional) and then having the masked out mouth reveal the next scene. It doesn't work. It looks hokey and weird. Not to mention that the mask was very blocky.

As far as your timing went, I thought it was pretty good overall. You didn't feel the need to hit every single beat or piano key, which you don't really need.

What I think made the video suffer the most was the shear amount of fighting. Now before you say "but that's all DBZ is," take this as an example of a dramatic and sentimental video using DBZ that doesn't solely rely on fighting:

Now, in this video, the parts where there IS fighting, it's justified by the change in the theme of the song. I just felt that amongst all of the fighting scenes that didn't really seem to have much continuity to begin with, the whole Vegeta & Trunks relationship gets kind of lost.

I did like the last part of the video (4:40+). The fight scenes work great there. But I just wish it had ended on a more significant scene showing the two main characters together, rather than simply Cell getting blown up (keep in mind, this is all coming from somebody with very limited knowledge of DBZ, so perhaps the significance is there, I just don't see it).

But yeah. I can tell you tried hard and wanted to make something outside of the norm, and you did. Just needs some work. Keep it up.

[Vivaldi]

That was...Interesting.

From an editing standpoint, it was fine, nothing obviously missed, nice sync, and tactful blurs. The scene choice seemed very incongruous at times, especially the begining. it was like a soft ballad put to fight scenes. Which made it different from most DBZ amvs I guess (for better or worse), but that just really jumped out at me. It had excellent quality, however, but it was very distracting because the aspect ration kept shifting. It was also very long, I watched the whole thing, but there were a few times when I checked the clock to see when it would be over. :/ Overall I'd give it a 3.5. Not especially great, but deffinently worth the D/L.

[Typhoon859]

First off, as an overall statement, I will say, not bad. There were certain parts of the video that I really did like. I thought the song choice was good for the story you were trying to convey (and it doesn't hurt that I already liked the song to begin with). So as I give you critiques, understand that they're here to be constructive.

The opening shot with Trunks singing (or looking like he's singing. I'm assuming it was intentional) and then having the masked out mouth reveal the next scene. It doesn't work. It looks hokey and weird. Not to mention that the mask was very blocky.

As far as your timing went, I thought it was pretty good overall. You didn't feel the need to hit every single beat or piano key, which you don't really need.

What I think made the video suffer the most was the shear amount of fighting. Now before you say "but that's all DBZ is," take this as an example of a dramatic and sentimental video using DBZ that doesn't solely rely on fighting:

Now, in this video, the parts where there IS fighting, it's justified by the change in the theme of the song. I just felt that amongst all of the fighting scenes that didn't really seem to have much continuity to begin with, the whole Vegeta & Trunks relationship gets kind of lost.

I did like the last part of the video (4:40+). The fight scenes work great there. But I just wish it had ended on a more significant scene showing the two main characters together, rather than simply Cell getting blown up (keep in mind, this is all coming from somebody with very limited knowledge of DBZ, so perhaps the significance is there, I just don't see it).

But yeah. I can tell you tried hard and wanted to make something outside of the norm, and you did. Just needs some work. Keep it up.

Don't worry. A critique was exactly what I was looking for, thanks. As long as you don't mind my thoughts afterward.

I agree with you about the mouth thing in the beginning. It didn't turn out exactly as I expected. It was meant to show what Trunks was talking about. "There was no light" but... yea.. The reason it was blocky though was cause it zoomed in that much. I tried to outline the mouth exactly where the line was instead of a pretty feathered oval but I guess maybe I actually should have done that.

About the scenes. There aren't much scenes I could've used that represented the words that involved Vegeta's rejection other than with a punch to Trunks' face or w/e, lol.

In terms of the ending, I was thinking exactly what you were but unfortunately, couldn't think of ANYTHING! Maybe somebody could think of a scene of Vegeta and Trunks together in a happy looking manner because Vegeta always looked angry around him XD

And just for the long run, I hate people that say "DBZ is just fighting" so it's definitely something I wouldn't say ^^

[NS]

I agree with Brad for the most part, Not horrible like I honestly expected. The end scene DOES only make sense if you know about DBZ, because then you know that Vegeta Blew up cell because cell killed trunks and thus it showed a love of trunks from vegeta, but you can't get this if you haven't seen DBZ. When making a vid, it is very often a good idea to assume that your audience has not seem the source you're working with, that way you can create a smoother flow of events. I didn't like how some of your scenes were ok quality, and others were messed up. DBZ is REALLY cheap now, you can buy all of the cell and trunks sagas for 50 bucks all together now, so there really isn't an excuse, especially when even if you can't.. I'll be honest, there are better quality sources even on the internet :/... I felt the videos just went to fast for the song all together, and when it didn't go to fast..it just seemed to drag on far to long. It didn't suck completely, but it still needs a LOT of work. I also didn't like your use of the Blur fade thing that everybody on youtube seems to use..

[Typhoon859]

That was...Interesting.

From an editing standpoint, it was fine, nothing obviously missed, nice sync, and tactful blurs. The scene choice seemed very incongruous at times, especially the begining. it was like a soft ballad put to fight scenes. Which made it different from most DBZ amvs I guess (for better or worse), but that just really jumped out at me. It had excellent quality, however, but it was very distracting because the aspect ration kept shifting. It was also very long, I watched the whole thing, but there were a few times when I checked the clock to see when it would be over. :/ Overall I'd give it a 3.5. Not especially great, but deffinently worth the D/L.

Okay. Cool. Keep in mind that this was my first AMV ever. The aspect changes weren't very frequent but the reason is because DBZ wasn't fully Remastered with that high quality footage yet. When it will be, I'll replace all those scenes with the proper widescreen version. And thanks

[Typhoon859]

I agree with Brad for the most part, Not horrible like I honestly expected. The end scene DOES only make sense if you know about DBZ, because then you know that Vegeta Blew up cell because cell killed trunks and thus it showed a love of trunks from vegeta, but you can't get this if you haven't seen DBZ. When making a vid, it is very often a good idea to assume that your audience has not seem the source you're working with, that way you can create a smoother flow of events. I didn't like how some of your scenes were ok quality, and others were messed up. DBZ is REALLY cheap now, you can buy all of the cell and trunks sagas for 50 bucks all together now, so there really isn't an excuse, especially when even if you can't.. I'll be honest, there are better quality sources even on the internet :/... I felt the videos just went to fast for the song all together, and when it didn't go to fast..it just seemed to drag on far to long. It didn't suck completely, but it still needs a LOT of work. I also didn't like your use of the Blur fade thing that everybody on youtube seems to use..

Well, the blur thing seemed really fitting for this video, no? You probably just found it over-used.

DBZ is a very well-known anime and I made it as aim towards those people. People who don't really know DBZ that well wouldn't be interested in this either way.

Also, you really think those good quality scenes were from regular DVDs? As I told Vivaldi, it's from the Remastered boxsets which haven't been released of the whole series yet. The worse quality scenes were from the old DVDs...

Anyway, thanks for your time

[NS]

... Some of the worse quality scenes I saw were when Cell Shoots trunks in the chest with the beam, this happens in the cell saga, which has been released in the remastered DVDs.

[Castor Troy]

Yes, I know what you're thinking, "Omg, another DBZ AMV..."

Was that meant as a bad thing?

*downloads* and will comment later.

[Typhoon859]

... Some of the worse quality scenes I saw were when Cell Shoots trunks in the chest with the beam, this happens in the cell saga, which has been released in the remastered DVDs.

No. That's Season 6 (Cell Games Saga - 29 episodes). That will be released September.